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I have a racial dilemma

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teh.pwnerer
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Canada110 Posts
May 24 2008 18:39 GMT
#1
Basically I want to pick a race to specialize in for SC and train with it, but I just can't decide! And unfortunately picking "Korean" isn't an option...

Some background info on my SC experience. I've played all 3 races quite a bit and generally I play at a D-level with around 150ish APM. I think I could get better results if I picked and practiced a single race (and practiced better builds). But whenever I try and stick to one, I seem to run into things about playing that race that I just hate. For example,
-I hate TvT so much. I definitely like having a good, long game, but playing for 40 minutes and then slowly dying just sucks (slowly winning also sucks). TvP is alright, though playing it on python really annoys me for some reason. And TvZ is really tough (and very different).
-Protoss gets boring... It definitely seems a ton easier than the other two, but I feel more limited in some ways. Also I feel PvP is very boring aesthetically (omg dragoons lawl - which ones are mine? SC hurts my eyes sometimes) and can be quite luck based at times. PvZ can be really fun for me though.
-Zerg. They're alright, ZvZ is really short so I don't care if it's just a muta-ling fest. ZvP is definitely fun since I play mainly hydra builds and have big, epic macro wars. Standard ZvT gets me though, I just don't like the style of it. If I could find a reliable way to hydra-lurk then that would help. Isn't it supposed to be good against the common SK terran? I don't really know tbh but I once saw Savior do it against Iris and that game was just awesome. Zerg drone play confuses me, I never know how many I need and when to power drones instead of units.

So...what do you guys think I should choose, and why? I play pretty casually on iccup/US west for a few hours every other day, and quite a bit on the weekend. I'm not looking to go A+ gosu, but an eventual C would be cool. Finally, which races are the most and least popular? That could play a factor too, because I like being different.

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Poll: What race should I be?
(Vote): Terran
(Vote): Protoss
(Vote): Zerg

ty for reading.

Mass Dark Archons FTW
Wizard
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Poland5055 Posts
May 24 2008 18:43 GMT
#2
Zerg
sAviOr[gm] ~ want to watch good replays? read my blog: http://www.teamliquid.net/blog/wizard
Falcynn
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3597 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-24 18:45:49
May 24 2008 18:45 GMT
#3
Protoss seems to be the most popular on iccup. As for what race you should play, why not just be a race picker? Or random.

However if you're against that, and I really hate to say this, but maybe you should play zergs (filthy fucking scum omg). It seems you like to play really fast paced macro games which imo seems to fit zergs perfectly (or at least better than the other races). Your problems with ZvT could easily be fixed just by practicing and studying more strategies. And your problems with drones can EASILY be fixed just by practicing more.
Wizard
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Poland5055 Posts
May 24 2008 18:48 GMT
#4
ok, to elaborate ->

- you seem to dislike toss, so scrap that
- you don't like TvT, and terran is homosexual anyways

Zerg
-> ZvZ is the most micro-oriented match-up, not as luck-based as people say it is (actually, it is almost 0 luck unless you take maps into considerations). quick and excitinng
-> ZvP, you say you like it so that's good
-> ZvT, compared to TvZ the hardest (in my opinion) matchup in the game. you say you don't like the style, but there are so many things you can do. two hatch tech/aggression, three hatch macro, lurker opening, muta opening, burrow and mass speedlings, defilers, ultras, all so awesome
sAviOr[gm] ~ want to watch good replays? read my blog: http://www.teamliquid.net/blog/wizard
frozenclaw
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Canada410 Posts
May 24 2008 18:49 GMT
#5
Are you .... The Teh_Pwnerer?
Hittegods
Profile Joined April 2007
Stockholm4641 Posts
May 24 2008 18:49 GMT
#6
Aw, I was hoping for "I have a rack" =(
This neo violence, pure self defiance
Newbistic
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
China2912 Posts
May 24 2008 18:49 GMT
#7
Pfft way to put down Protoss, we don't need you anyways. Go choose some other wimpy race so I can crush you with my mighty Golden Horde.
Logic is Overrated
MiniRoman
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
Canada3953 Posts
May 24 2008 18:50 GMT
#8
I'm a P user but I voted Terran for you!!!!!!

Honestly no one on this forum can answer your question. Play all 3 until you decide for yourself. All races are balanced, saying P is the "easy" race is stupid (I KNOW IM P BUT ITS SOOOO HARD RARARARA!!!!!!!!!). P is def the most popular race right now.

What falcynn said above me makes sense though, so you can change my vote to Zerg (even though they are the gay people race)
Nak Allstar.
Wizard
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Poland5055 Posts
May 24 2008 18:50 GMT
#9
On May 25 2008 03:49 Newbistic wrote:
Pfft way to put down Protoss, we don't need you anyways. Go choose some other wimpy race so I can crush you with my mighty Golden Horde.

you have a Zerg icon and say horde and you call yourself a protoss
sAviOr[gm] ~ want to watch good replays? read my blog: http://www.teamliquid.net/blog/wizard
teh.pwnerer
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Canada110 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-24 18:56:25
May 24 2008 18:54 GMT
#10
I considered being a "race picker" but it just seems...weird. What happens when I face random people, and other race pickers? I figure I might as well commit and learn a race inside out. Thanks for the comments so far, I'll check back on this later and make a decision by the end of the day. I feel like I need to put my foot down and go "from now on I'm playing _____".

quick edits -

1. I'm not teh_pwnerer from that purepwnage web series lol. I'm an unoriginal piece of crap so I stole his name.
2. I meant that Protoss is easier to use at the lower levels of play.
Mass Dark Archons FTW
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25996 Posts
May 24 2008 18:57 GMT
#11
Zerg.
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ilovejonn
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Canada2548 Posts
May 24 2008 19:09 GMT
#12
Let's make the poll all equal. lolol

I don't know, I picked Zerg for you so I can get more TvZ action. =)
Snowflakes in January, Heart warm like February, I wouldn't ordinarily..
MasterOfChaos
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Germany2896 Posts
May 24 2008 19:12 GMT
#13
Pick random, all other choices are racist.
LiquipediaOne eye to kill. Two eyes to live.
HumbleZealot
Profile Joined February 2006
Canada508 Posts
May 24 2008 19:18 GMT
#14
Protoss.
+ Show Spoiler +
PvZ IS IMBA!!!
0xDEADBEEF
Profile Joined September 2007
Germany1235 Posts
May 24 2008 19:32 GMT
#15
Z is fun and unique
Otherwise play T
P is for noobs
Random is for elitists
gwho
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States632 Posts
May 24 2008 21:22 GMT
#16
z is swarming techniques. and controlling mass units. i'm a zerg guy, but i hate having so many units to group, control and keep track of. i'm looking forward to SC2
choose p if you're into casting and micro.
T is for crazy apm MF's
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
May 24 2008 21:36 GMT
#17
You don't have to stick to a race

you can play several matchups like I do

even though i play at c- tvt level, i hate it with a passion. I usually do my d- zvt. I play TvP and TvZ as well, but sometimes i do ZvP cuz I hate Dt-->Carrier
Watch me fail at Paradox: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=397564
HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
May 24 2008 22:11 GMT
#18
I still think u should play all 3 races for a bit more
Understanding the "mindset" of the other race is very important
you can't get this understanding if u only play one race

+ Show Spoiler +
eff all of what i said up there, FOR THE SWARM
"come korea next time... FXO house... 10 korean, 10 korean"
gwho
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States632 Posts
May 24 2008 23:03 GMT
#19
why don't you try sticking with one race for a while, like 10-30 games. then roatate? you will still get more deep knowledge about one race by using it consecutively, but also for each race. then from that point, you will have gained knowledge and the mindset for each race, and as you do so, you will have gained a "preference" and what fits you better.

of course, you dont have to stick to one race, but look at it... all the pros stick to one race. and they've already "mastered" that race. and they're still mastering it further. GL =)
Hypnosis
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States2061 Posts
May 24 2008 23:57 GMT
#20
I said Terran, but Terran can be lame sometimes. I think zerg is the most fun because of the high tech units
Science without religion is lame, Religion without science is blind
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