• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 08:47
CEST 14:47
KST 21:47
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners6Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection7Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO8 Preview5[ASL21] Finals Preview: Two Legacies21
Community News
Douyu Cup 2026: $20,000 Legends Event (June 26-28)8[BSL22] Non-Korean Championship from 13 to 28 June4Weekly Cups (May 25-31): Clem doubles, 2v2 circuit heads toward finale0StarCraft II 5.0.16 PTR Patch Notes may 26th156Weekly Cups (May 18-24): MaxPax wins doubles0
StarCraft 2
General
StarCraft II 5.0.16 PTR Patch Notes may 26th TL Poll: How do you feel about the 5.0.16 PTR balance changes? High level ptr replays? where can I find them? Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection
Tourneys
Douyu Cup 2026: $20,000 Legends Event (June 26-28) Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule ! Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) GSL Code S Season 2 (2026)
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 529 Opportunities Unleashed Mutation # 528 Infection Detected Welcome to the External Content forum
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ vespene.gg — BW replays in browser Quality of life changes in BW that you will like ? [BSL22] Non-Korean Championship from 13 to 28 June The Korean Terminology Thread
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Grand Finals [BSL22] Grand Finals - Sunday 21:00 CEST Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2
Strategy
Creating a full chart of Zerg builds Relatively freeroll strategies Why doesn't anyone use restoration? Any training maps people recommend?
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread PC Games Sales Thread ZeroSpace Megathread Summer Games Done Quick 2026!
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
Canadian Politics Mega-thread US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Trading/Investing Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [TV/BOOK] *SPOILERS* Game of Thrones Discussion [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Cricket [SPORT] TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 NBA General Discussion McBoner: A hockey love story
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Facing Challenges in Mobile App Development
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Does Workplace Frustration D…
TrAiDoS
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
I'm an arrogant trash talke…
FlaShFTW
Gauntlet SC2: A Retrospectiv…
Ctone23
Why RTS gamers make better f…
gosubay
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 9716 users

TSL Bracket + Math

Blogs > Dknight
Post a Reply
Dknight
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States5224 Posts
May 12 2008 04:45 GMT
#1
So I'm a history major which means my math is very limited. I'm not even going to bother trying for fear of how much I will butcher it.

What are the odds for someone correctly predicting the TSL bracket, including a third place match?

Would it be 8!4!2!2!? Or what

****
WGT<3. Former CL/NW head admin.
EmeraldSparks
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States1451 Posts
May 12 2008 04:46 GMT
#2
2^(8+4+2+2)
But why?
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
May 12 2008 04:48 GMT
#3
LOL WHAT A NEWB!
twitter.com/xerislight -- follow me~~
Macavenger
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States1132 Posts
May 12 2008 05:18 GMT
#4
EmeraldSparks is correct if you make the purely mathematical assumption that all players have a 50% chance of winning.
MoNKeYSpanKeR
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States2869 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-12 05:22:17
May 12 2008 05:21 GMT
#5
history owns math anyway, we can use past events to predict the future. So simply find out who won the last TSL and history will repeat itself

...i see no problem here.
<3's Mani and Seraphim, thx for the second chance. TSL Name: TSL-mSLeGenD
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
May 12 2008 06:08 GMT
#6
art owns history because u can draw anything but only some things have happened before
yubee
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States3826 Posts
May 12 2008 06:24 GMT
#7
dogs own history because if u pet a dog and then go to college then technically dogs go to college
H
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
New Zealand6138 Posts
May 12 2008 06:41 GMT
#8
what
[iHs]HCO | のヮの | pachi & plexa ownz | RIP _
CDRdude
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States5625 Posts
May 12 2008 06:53 GMT
#9
On May 12 2008 14:21 MoNKeYSpanKeR wrote:
history owns math anyway, we can use past events to predict the future. So simply find out who won the last TSL and history will repeat itself

...i see no problem here.

Haha, so true In related news, NaDa wins both starleagues.
Force staff is the best item in the game.
Daigomi
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
South Africa4316 Posts
May 12 2008 09:35 GMT
#10
it's smaller than that actually, because to correctly predict the bracket there's 6 possible results per match (0-3 1-3 2-3 3-2 3-1 3-0) which you also have to get right :p
Moderator
SnowFantasy
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
4173 Posts
May 12 2008 10:00 GMT
#11
On May 12 2008 15:53 CDRdude wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2008 14:21 MoNKeYSpanKeR wrote:
history owns math anyway, we can use past events to predict the future. So simply find out who won the last TSL and history will repeat itself

...i see no problem here.

Haha, so true In related news, NaDa wins both starleagues.


omg man that would be a dream come true.
Pafnucy
Profile Joined October 2002
Poland1124 Posts
May 12 2008 10:01 GMT
#12
probability is the same, no matter what model you use. You can even treat matches individually: first match win/lose, second match... for each series, it wont change the chance of getting the result (winning series by player x).
Member of the "Fuck Yeah, Canata !" committee :-) to join copy/paste this
Daigomi
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
South Africa4316 Posts
May 12 2008 10:16 GMT
#13
He didn't ask what the chances were of predicting the winner, he asked what the chances were of predicting the bracket. And for bracket contests, game results as well as game winners are important, so then it does make a difference.
Moderator
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 2h 13m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Harstem 444
BRAT_OK 114
SHIN 95
MindelVK 28
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 54484
Calm 5549
firebathero 4108
Sea 2989
EffOrt 627
Shuttle 624
Mini 586
Light 341
Hyuk 320
Mong 271
[ Show more ]
actioN 225
Last 178
ggaemo 161
Pusan 142
Hyun 78
Sea.KH 71
JYJ 65
hero 58
Sharp 45
HiyA 43
ToSsGirL 42
Aegong 41
Killer 31
Sacsri 25
910 23
sorry 22
GoRush 16
Noble 14
IntoTheRainbow 9
Movie 8
Dota 2
Dendi1710
XcaliburYe392
qojqva86
Counter-Strike
fl0m5014
x6flipin308
kRYSTAL_28
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King167
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor141
Other Games
B2W.Neo416
singsing400
DeMusliM275
Fuzer 135
KnowMe75
Organizations
StarCraft 2
CranKy Ducklings218
Other Games
BasetradeTV128
StarCraft 2
angryscii 28
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 9
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH253
• CranKy Ducklings SOOP102
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Nemesis4669
Other Games
• WagamamaTV1163
Upcoming Events
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
2h 13m
BSL22 NKC (BSL vs China)
6h 13m
Jaystar vs Dewalt
eOnzErG vs TerrOr
XuanXuan vs Bonyth
Mihu vs Dewalt
Messiah vs Jaystar
eOnzErG vs Bonyth
TerrOr vs Dewalt
Wardi Open
22h 13m
OSC
1d 11h
Replay Cast
2 days
The PondCast
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
OSC
4 days
CranKy Ducklings
4 days
BSL22 NKC (BSL vs China)
6 days
XuanXuan vs Jaystar
Mihu vs Messiah
eOnzErG vs Dewalt
Bonyth vs Jaystar
TerrOr vs Messiah
XuanXuan vs Mihu
eOnzErG vs Jaystar
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Acropolis #4 - GSB
2026 GSL S2
Heroes Pulsing #1

Ongoing

IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
Acropolis #4
CSCL: Masked Kings S4
YSL S3
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
SCTL 2026 Spring
Maestros of the Game 2
WardiTV Spring 2026
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Murky Cup 2026
Heroes Pulsing #2
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1

Upcoming

CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
HSC XXIX
Douyu Cup 2026
Heroes Pulsing #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.