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TSL Bracket + Math

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Dknight
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States5224 Posts
May 12 2008 04:45 GMT
#1
So I'm a history major which means my math is very limited. I'm not even going to bother trying for fear of how much I will butcher it.

What are the odds for someone correctly predicting the TSL bracket, including a third place match?

Would it be 8!4!2!2!? Or what

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EmeraldSparks
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States1451 Posts
May 12 2008 04:46 GMT
#2
2^(8+4+2+2)
But why?
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
May 12 2008 04:48 GMT
#3
LOL WHAT A NEWB!
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Macavenger
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States1132 Posts
May 12 2008 05:18 GMT
#4
EmeraldSparks is correct if you make the purely mathematical assumption that all players have a 50% chance of winning.
MoNKeYSpanKeR
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States2869 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-12 05:22:17
May 12 2008 05:21 GMT
#5
history owns math anyway, we can use past events to predict the future. So simply find out who won the last TSL and history will repeat itself

...i see no problem here.
<3's Mani and Seraphim, thx for the second chance. TSL Name: TSL-mSLeGenD
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Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
May 12 2008 06:08 GMT
#6
art owns history because u can draw anything but only some things have happened before
yubee
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States3826 Posts
May 12 2008 06:24 GMT
#7
dogs own history because if u pet a dog and then go to college then technically dogs go to college
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New Zealand6138 Posts
May 12 2008 06:41 GMT
#8
what
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CDRdude
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States5625 Posts
May 12 2008 06:53 GMT
#9
On May 12 2008 14:21 MoNKeYSpanKeR wrote:
history owns math anyway, we can use past events to predict the future. So simply find out who won the last TSL and history will repeat itself

...i see no problem here.

Haha, so true In related news, NaDa wins both starleagues.
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Daigomi
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
South Africa4316 Posts
May 12 2008 09:35 GMT
#10
it's smaller than that actually, because to correctly predict the bracket there's 6 possible results per match (0-3 1-3 2-3 3-2 3-1 3-0) which you also have to get right :p
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SnowFantasy
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
4173 Posts
May 12 2008 10:00 GMT
#11
On May 12 2008 15:53 CDRdude wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2008 14:21 MoNKeYSpanKeR wrote:
history owns math anyway, we can use past events to predict the future. So simply find out who won the last TSL and history will repeat itself

...i see no problem here.

Haha, so true In related news, NaDa wins both starleagues.


omg man that would be a dream come true.
Pafnucy
Profile Joined October 2002
Poland1124 Posts
May 12 2008 10:01 GMT
#12
probability is the same, no matter what model you use. You can even treat matches individually: first match win/lose, second match... for each series, it wont change the chance of getting the result (winning series by player x).
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Daigomi
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
South Africa4316 Posts
May 12 2008 10:16 GMT
#13
He didn't ask what the chances were of predicting the winner, he asked what the chances were of predicting the bracket. And for bracket contests, game results as well as game winners are important, so then it does make a difference.
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