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Rus_Brain
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Russian Federation1894 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-04-22 12:49:19
April 22 2008 01:25 GMT
#1
I've got a message from Victor today. Translation here:

_______________
I salute you, my dear enemies fans!

As I have already said, I had never been a maphacker as I am accused. Nevertheless, I had Oblivion installed (only for training purposes, but still it's a hack); I let down my team, I made admins waste their time to reveal the maphack and not do more important things... I admit that I must take punishment...

I know how hard it is for the team to just throw me out. I always considered myself a manner player, and in this case I have to gather my courage and leave the team myself instead of hiding behind friends' backs. I am not going to quit SC. You will see me again on LANs (Yeah, right! So many hackers in offlines, it is just scary, right?). Until then I am gone. I hope that one day you will forgive me. I am indeed very sorry that this has happened :'(

Farewell,
Victor Lopatin,
Ex-player of RoX - localhost.
_______________

***
patyrykin.net
Rus_Brain
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Russian Federation1894 Posts
April 22 2008 01:27 GMT
#2
Whatever you say, it's a big loss for our team.
But local done a very smart thing.

Peace, brother
patyrykin.net
Nitrogen
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States5345 Posts
April 22 2008 01:31 GMT
#3
I liked him... :[

At least he did the right thing and didn't deny everything and shit.
UNFUCK YOURSELF
HamerD
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom1922 Posts
April 22 2008 01:43 GMT
#4
but he didn't hack...
"Oh no, we've drawn Judge Schneider" "Is that bad?" "Well, he's had it in for me ever since I kinda ran over his dog" "You did?" "Yeah...if you replace the word *kinda* with *repeatedly*...and the word *dog* with son"
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44451 Posts
April 22 2008 01:59 GMT
#5
On April 22 2008 10:43 HamerD wrote:
but he didn't hack...

He played serious games of bw in sponsored tournaments with Oblivion (a hack) open, loaded up and active. This much is proved. According to him although he was in game with a maphack running he had set it to not show the map. Exactly what more do you want?
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
useLess
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States4781 Posts
April 22 2008 02:05 GMT
#6
At least he admitted it and apologized, and didnt try some lame excuse.
Moonlight Shadow
Rus_Brain
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Russian Federation1894 Posts
April 22 2008 02:05 GMT
#7
Exactly. He confessed, he had Oblivion opened. Tho it was in sleeping mode (well, let's trust him here), and made no help for him, it was A HACK LOADED. And he understands it
patyrykin.net
ilbh
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil1606 Posts
April 22 2008 02:07 GMT
#8
he just said he didn't turned it on, that he is not a map hacker.
Part of the inhumanity of the computer is that, once it is competently programmed and working smoothly, it is completely honest.
Rus_Brain
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Russian Federation1894 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-04-22 02:22:23
April 22 2008 02:12 GMT
#9
Why should not I trust him? But it's the same with HayprO situation.
patyrykin.net
Nitrogen
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States5345 Posts
April 22 2008 02:21 GMT
#10
I hope he can gain his respect back in the future and continue on the bw scene.
UNFUCK YOURSELF
BroOd
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Austin10833 Posts
April 22 2008 02:22 GMT
#11
On April 22 2008 11:05 useLess wrote:
At least he admitted it and apologized, and didnt try some lame excuse.


Isn't that exactly what this is, an excuse?

On April 22 2008 11:05 Rus_Brain wrote:
Exactly. He confessed, he had Oblivion opened. Tho it was in sleeping mode (well, let's trust him here), and made no help for him, it was A HACK LOADED. And he understands it


Well, he didn't confess, he was caught. What I don't understand is, if RoX players use maphack for their in-house training, wouldn't you know about it? It seems weird that you, as a manager, wouldn't be aware of this, or if you were, wouldn't mention it in your release when he was first accused.
ModeratorSIRL and JLIG.
whOo
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States12 Posts
April 22 2008 02:28 GMT
#12
A murky situation in my opinion. I liked watching him in ascension however. He seems like a good guy, after reading his apology.

Whether he really DID hack or not, the consequences still stick. If he continues to do well in LANs, like he says, how can ppl not give him another chance, despite these accusations?
johnson and bronson digme?
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
April 22 2008 02:33 GMT
#13
nobody dl's a hack just for practice or just for "sleep mode." How many athletes do you know keep steroids at home but dont use them? 0

He's a nice guy and a great player. But he is stupid if he thinks anyone buys that logic. And stupider if it is somehow true.
EpiK
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5757 Posts
April 22 2008 02:40 GMT
#14
wtf would you have oblivion on "sleep mode" in the first place???
Nitrogen
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States5345 Posts
April 22 2008 02:50 GMT
#15
I really don't give a shit about his excuse, it may or may not be bullshit, either way it does not matter. He accepts that he was caught with it running, and he left the team for that reason.
UNFUCK YOURSELF
teamsolid
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada3668 Posts
April 22 2008 02:53 GMT
#16
Didn't he hack in all ascension and MOTC games? It's easy to go back and watch some of those games. See if there's any questionable moves.

It's possible he's telling the truth... but I highly doubt it. Even then, map hacking in practice games is pretty murky. Kinda unfair to all those other players who practice legit w/out hack.
thunk
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States6233 Posts
April 22 2008 02:55 GMT
#17
Manner. It takes a pair to leave like that, regardless of whether or not it's an excuse or not. You have my respect, localhost.
Every time Jung Myung Hoon builds a vulture, two probes die. || My post count was a palindrome and I was never posting again.
BroOd
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Austin10833 Posts
April 22 2008 02:57 GMT
#18
lol some of you guys have a pretty low threshold for your respect.
ModeratorSIRL and JLIG.
whOo
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States12 Posts
April 22 2008 02:59 GMT
#19
Well steroids is different. If an athlete uses steroids only in practice, the steroids directly affect actual games. On the other hand, using mh for practice, only helps someone get better, while the mh has no direct affect on a game.

But still, is using mh to practice looked down upon? To me, it seems like a viable way to get better--actually work on timing.

The bottom line is, he COULD be telling the truth. It doesn't matter though, he's accepted the consequences of even HAVING a mh on his computer, and he's paid the price. He's been seemingly forthright and hasn't complained.

If others can come back from hack accusations, I'm sure, if he's legit and if he wants to, he can too.
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Nikk
Profile Joined September 2007
United States63 Posts
April 22 2008 03:04 GMT
#20
When I was teaching a friend to play Starcraft I would play the game while sharing vision. The major drawback to this was that he didn't need detectors for stealth, but someone said that map hacks don't reveal cloaked units. If that is true, I would definitely have my friend play me with a map hack on for the learning experience, as opposed to sharing vision.

I dont know how applicable this is for practicing on a competitive level however. Also, I don't have an opinion on whether or not this was the case with localhost.
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