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merz
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Sweden2760 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-07-10 05:37:53
July 10 2007 05:36 GMT
#1
Hi to anyone who's actually reading this. So I've been playing like 16 games so far today, on iccup that is, and guess what? I've won 4 of those, you do the math.

I don't know what went wrong, but I do know that this always happends to me when I play ladders. If I lose lets say... 3 or 4 games in a row, It's just like I'm cursed to go on a losing streak the entire day. My play is totally off, decision making totally off, macro off...... etc.

The day started of quite okay, I went 2-2 the first four games, so that's basically 50/50 and that's fine by me. But then I see nony answering to my "C Gaia or Python msg" And I'm like cool, I've always wanted to play nony.

So we duke it out at gaia, and before I know it, i'm down 0-3 in 30 minutes, thats right 30 minutes. NonY just took me to school in the art of PvT, and boy did I get schooled. The one single game where I actually managed to get my expo up, he was just far too superior in macromanagement and a simple 2 arbiter recall ended the game after 18 minutes.

So i'm like uh, gggggggggggggggggggg and I'm thinking maybe it's time I switch opponent after a 0-3 rape. That didn't work though, I lost 2 games straight where I had the upper hand but I just kept losing it more and more as the game went on. With a 0-5 streak I was feeling rather shitty, but managed to pull myself toghether and I went 3-1, 2-0 vs this guy named "amnesty". After 2-0:ing amnesty I agreed to play all 5 games that you are able to play vs an opponent on ICCup, and guess what? I lost 3 in a row against amnesty after taking him down easily the 2 first games. Last game was just a horrible 28 minute game where I thought I did everything right, but eventually it turned out that he had the 2 corners on python the entire game, which screwed me over.

At that point I was furious, I had gone like 5-11, but I kept on playing. Last game I played was a TvP on python where I felt that I was raping my opponent the entire game, taking down expos etc.. but something wasn't right I could feel it, my macro just wasn't the same, and before I know it, 4 carriers are knocking on my door... I didn't even have an armory up... GG!

So yeah, just needed to vent some, sorry if I got into details about the games, but hey its my blog ;D What i've been doing now is that I grabbed something to eat, and Ima pause for like 20 more minutes then its back to laddering. I hope it'll go better then.

Current record is 63-45 C :/ (yesterday: 59-33)



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Winners never quit, quitters never win.
dementus
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Singapore1151 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-07-10 05:50:17
July 10 2007 05:44 GMT
#2
i obviously haven't played at the same level of competition as you, but i shall offer some general advice:

sometimes taking a short break can do wonders. perhaps you could've taken some time off to reflect on your mistakes, relax, etc? i'm pretty sure you pushing yourself too hard affected you mentally, and led to this minor setback.

again, i wish you all the best because you're a humble, skilled player and we appreciate the fpvods. chillax, and it'll be easier to get your head in the game.
"I couldn't stop myself from having unreal macro and sick timing senses."
Samejima
Profile Joined June 2004
Canada534 Posts
July 10 2007 06:18 GMT
#3
Same thing happens to me when I lose 3 or 4 in a row, it's like I will take the wrong decision the entire day. The worst thing is that it's always these kind of day where I play a lot of games because I'm like no way i'm gonna lose another shitty one like that, but yes the domino effect is already started
What we call chaos is just patterns we haven't recognized yet.
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-07-10 06:58:54
July 10 2007 06:58 GMT
#4
"So we duke it out at gaia, and before I know it, i'm down 0-3 in 30 minutes, thats right 30 minutes. NonY just took me to school in the art of PvT, and boy did I get schooled."

--

I know this wasn't intentional, but I still thought it was humorous that Duke, Nony and school all end up in the same place
Kennigit *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
July 10 2007 07:07 GMT
#5
On July 10 2007 15:58 thedeadhaji wrote:
"So we duke it out at gaia, and before I know it, i'm down 0-3 in 30 minutes, thats right 30 minutes. NonY just took me to school in the art of PvT, and boy did I get schooled."

--

I know this wasn't intentional, but I still thought it was humorous that Duke, Nony and school all end up in the same place

:o hotbid h@x0red haji's accountz!
SayaSP
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Laos5494 Posts
July 10 2007 07:26 GMT
#6
YOU CAN DO IT MERZ, I BELIEVE :D

You're awesome.
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Carnac
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Germany / USA16648 Posts
July 10 2007 09:11 GMT
#7
I wish I had your energy. Doesn't matter if I win or lose, after 5 ladder (the latest) I get so terribly bored annoyed that I stop.
I don't think I've played 10 or more ladder games at once more than 2 or 3 times in my entire life.
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NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8748 Posts
July 10 2007 09:46 GMT
#8
<3 I didn't know that was you!

just keep working at it. i've had those days. sometimes you might be able to pinpoint an actual cause, like less sleep than normal, etc. but it can easily have no cause at all and you just have a random bad day. but those days are good opportunities to work on your consistency. imagine our games were in the first round of an important tournament... you need the experience of having a rough start and then bouncing back.

i've had days on iccup where i get owned the first couple of games, but i get out of my rut and start playing properly. and now i feel like if i ever get in a situation in a tournament where i have a really bad match, i won't be worried about it continuing the whole day. instead, i think "well, i got the bad games out of the way and now i can own everyone for the rest of the day." if you really love the game and really care about getting better, you should be excited about losing all day because it's just a huge opportunity right in front of you. and if you win all day, it just feels good it's a win win scenario
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
merz
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Sweden2760 Posts
July 10 2007 09:50 GMT
#9
Hehe thanks for the feedback guys ;o

Ya well I did quite okay after my meal, went on 4-0 streak, then 0-1, 1-0- 0-2. After the 0-2 I kinda stopped to reflect some like you said dementus, but i'll probably do a couple of more games before I sleep ;o

Heh nony ;D I thought you already knew so I didn't bother saying anything special ;O
Winners never quit, quitters never win.
Pressure
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
7326 Posts
July 10 2007 10:56 GMT
#10
Just a bit of bad luck, hope you get better :D
and try not to get hustled
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 10 2007 15:23 GMT
#11
On July 10 2007 16:07 Kennigit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2007 15:58 thedeadhaji wrote:
"So we duke it out at gaia, and before I know it, i'm down 0-3 in 30 minutes, thats right 30 minutes. NonY just took me to school in the art of PvT, and boy did I get schooled."

--

I know this wasn't intentional, but I still thought it was humorous that Duke, Nony and school all end up in the same place

:o hotbid h@x0red haji's accountz!


I didn't know hotbid was known for his bolds and coloring? oO
Elsi
Profile Joined October 2002
United Kingdom8173 Posts
July 10 2007 18:36 GMT
#12
Nice

Like these ICCup blogs!
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24701 Posts
July 10 2007 22:20 GMT
#13
Something really difficult to do but very important: don't let the results of a few random games influence you too much. If you are annoyed about something then go 0-2 vs two random guys, there isn't necessarily a connection. It's basically statistics with a very small sample size. It also works the other way. If you go 2-0 in two random games, don't let it make you cocky or whatever. I seem to do both of these things from time to time.

However, if you play 300 games and go down 2 ranks in the process, statistics say you can probably use this as an indicator.
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DaZe
Profile Joined November 2003
Sweden2111 Posts
July 11 2007 01:24 GMT
#14
Quit bw merz gw though :o
FirstBorn
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Romania3955 Posts
July 11 2007 02:46 GMT
#15
Would you mind posting the NonY reps ? Next time 3 fact FTW!!!
SonuvBob: Yes, the majority of TL is college-aged, and thus clearly stupid.
ATeddyBear
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Canada2843 Posts
July 11 2007 03:09 GMT
#16
macro not working? play wc3
Professional twice over - an analyst and a therapist. The world’s first analrapist.
DaZe
Profile Joined November 2003
Sweden2111 Posts
July 11 2007 03:42 GMT
#17
na but seriously merz, dont stop after a few losses, just keep playing and playing if you have the energy. massgaming will result in routine and experience which will make your ladderplay much much easier. Once you get that confidence and ability to read your opponent it shouldnt be that hard until you get to the higher levels of gaming...

Dunno how good the gamers are at your rank on iccup but just keep it up :o
merz
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Sweden2760 Posts
July 11 2007 06:10 GMT
#18
Jens ;O!

You should get back to bw, theres no one bossing me around and acting superior on battle net anymore :O!
Winners never quit, quitters never win.
BluzMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Russian Federation4235 Posts
July 12 2007 00:10 GMT
#19
There's something terribly wrong with your TvP if you don't have an armory up by the moment you've razed several toss expos and toss is going carriers. Stuff like not doing scan well enough can be forgiven, but this is a serious BO mistake.
You want 20 good men, but you need a bad pussy.
besiger
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Croatia2452 Posts
July 17 2007 07:31 GMT
#20
well im a newbie and it has been know to happen that i forget armory , you get busy fighting all around the map, and you you see that all game the toss just goes zeal goon macro fights, no arbs, no shuttles, no grades, and you win most of the fights so you dont grade yourself, and all of a sudden ,carriers, shit happend to me today too on iccup
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