• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 02:18
CEST 08:18
KST 15:18
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Finals Preview: Sweet Victory!9[ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror6[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5
Community News
[$1250] International ShieldBattery League29Weekly Cups (October 5-11): Farewell to 5.0.162Rollback Netcode in Brood War1265.0.17 Patch Notes - October 7, 202624Weekly Cups Results (Sep 28-Oct 4)0
StarCraft 2
General
SCII needs to put more weight on strategy and tact Server Blocker Terran AddOns placement How do you feel about the mass reverts in the 5.0.17 PTR? Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners
Tourneys
Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) $3,500 WardiTV Not-Summer Championship ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
[G] How to playtest arcade maps [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Sweltering Sands [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 547 Temple Of Terror Mutation # 546 Catch the Train Mutation # 545 And Drops and Rifts
Brood War
General
[Megathread] Daily Funny Videos Rollback Netcode in Brood War GG Lan Fest Sofia, Bulgaria [this November] [Recap] Hive ZvZ in MonstarZ vs Dreams [ASL22] Finals Preview: Sweet Victory!
Tourneys
[$1250] International ShieldBattery League [ASL22] Grand Finals 2v2v2v2 Tournament Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Simple Questions, Simple Answers Replay Review Process - What do you do?
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Dawn of War IV Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25!
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Artificial Intelligence Thread The Chess Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion!
Sports
MLB/Baseball 2023 Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
ShieldBattery on Mac
Kraekkling
The Link Between Gaming and …
TrAiDoS
[ASL22] Ro4 Day1 Ticket Giv…
bITt.mAN
38 yo Retired SWE loo…
PurE)Rabbit-SF
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 8711 users

Love for the Game (x2)

Blogs > BigFan
Post a Reply
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-09-26 02:45:47
September 26 2019 02:42 GMT
#1
Hi all,

It's been a while since I last wrote a blog so I figured that I'll share one of my recent games with everyone. I haven't played anywhere as much as usual since I stepped down as BW EiC, but I have gotten some interesting back and forth games, and I feel like my skill level has gotten close to what it was before. The game is still as amazing as ever when two players who are closely matched in skill play each other and I highly recommend any readers who want to try BW take the plunge and give it a go. We also just got colors added in the newest patch so there's that to look forward too as well! :D

On that note, late game TvZ is still as hard, fun and rewarding as I remember. You essentially have to:
1) Keep macro going at all times to avoid missing production cycles and keep income going.
2) Keep tabs on the Zerg at all times for expansion timings, army movement etc...
3) Stay aggressive so that the Zerg doesn't get out of control, involving lots of scans and irradiation.
4) Micro properly against ultraling with defiler and lurker support. Plague+swarm is a deadly combo.
5) Stay defensive with just enough units at your mining bases because a Zerg army can strike and retreat quickly.

Obligatory: "Defilers are still an imba unit!"



Here are some must-watch moments for those that don't want to watch the whole thing:
a) Not great, not good, pretty bad...
b) I'm listening ~
c) First One
d) Endless
e) The Snipe
f) Here's Another
g) Maximum Power?
h) Spidey Sense!
i) Oops...
j) Plague imba
k) IMMORTAL vessels!
l) Gonna do this all night?
m) The time is nigh!
n) End in sight?
o) End in sight? x2
p) GG

a), e), h), and k) are my favourites. I also apparently play better in SD mode than RM with the bigger widescreen, go figure. Let me know what you guys think and let's all bask in the glory that is TvZ

**
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Ty2
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United States1434 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-09-26 03:07:58
September 26 2019 03:04 GMT
#2
--- Nuked ---
Writer
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10570 Posts
September 26 2019 14:38 GMT
#3
War of Attrition: Bigfan dodges you until you're so tired of it that when he finally agrees to play you, you're so mentally exhausted. Excellent tactic. Art of War more like Art of Dodging.
Writer#1 KT and FlaSh Fanboy || Woo Jung Ho Never Forget || Teamliquid Political Decision Desk
TL+ Member
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
September 26 2019 20:05 GMT
#4
On September 26 2019 12:04 Ty2 wrote:
Watching the sick hold vs ultras at h). Look at all of Zerg's bases and am astounded Bigfan somehow wins... Then looks at 13k/6k bank and not so astounded anymore...

Jokes aside, cool blog.

Best moment for me:
[image loading]

haha well, I only started banking heavily after I maxed. I think I was at 3.5k? on 3 mining bases at like 165 supply. That bank is the reason I was in it since I mined out most of my bases.

On September 26 2019 23:38 FlaShFTW wrote:
War of Attrition: Bigfan dodges you until you're so tired of it that when he finally agrees to play you, you're so mentally exhausted. Excellent tactic. Art of War more like Art of Dodging.

Nice try. That's not how it works, but that's a very good strategy. I should try it sometime!
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
September 26 2019 21:23 GMT
#5
What a game. 33:33 is a Terran's dream. Would love to see Zergs point of view. Btw, there's something funny going on with the gas mining at the Z nat at 32mins.
EsportsJohn
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4883 Posts
September 28 2019 08:23 GMT
#6
My hydra den cause some funky pathing, so I had to build a weird, out of place sunken to fix it, and then later in the game, it randomly decided to break again ;;
StrategyAllyssa Grey <3<3
JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-09-29 11:56:42
September 29 2019 11:55 GMT
#7
dat thumbnailz

On September 26 2019 23:38 FlaShFTW wrote:
War of Attrition: Bigfan dodges you until you're so tired of it that when he finally agrees to play you, you're so mentally exhausted. Excellent tactic. Art of War more like Art of Dodging.


Hahahaha and "I only play TvZ"
Please send me a PM of any song you like that I most probably never heard of! I am looking for people to chat about writing and producing music | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noD-bsOcxuU |
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10570 Posts
September 29 2019 22:46 GMT
#8
On September 29 2019 20:55 JieXian wrote:
dat thumbnailz

Show nested quote +
On September 26 2019 23:38 FlaShFTW wrote:
War of Attrition: Bigfan dodges you until you're so tired of it that when he finally agrees to play you, you're so mentally exhausted. Excellent tactic. Art of War more like Art of Dodging.


Hahahaha and "I only play TvZ"

the classic matchup dodge.
Writer#1 KT and FlaSh Fanboy || Woo Jung Ho Never Forget || Teamliquid Political Decision Desk
TL+ Member
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
October 01 2019 01:01 GMT
#9
On September 27 2019 06:23 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
What a game. 33:33 is a Terran's dream. Would love to see Zergs point of view. Btw, there's something funny going on with the gas mining at the Z nat at 32mins.

My guess is that john saw the vessels coming in and just clicked on the gas then realized that made things worse and tried to spread them out lol.

On September 30 2019 07:46 FlaShFTW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2019 20:55 JieXian wrote:
dat thumbnailz

On September 26 2019 23:38 FlaShFTW wrote:
War of Attrition: Bigfan dodges you until you're so tired of it that when he finally agrees to play you, you're so mentally exhausted. Excellent tactic. Art of War more like Art of Dodging.


Hahahaha and "I only play TvZ"

the classic matchup dodge.

Coming from the guy who quit playing the game! :>
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-10-01 07:22:26
October 01 2019 07:20 GMT
#10
On September 28 2019 17:23 EsportsJohn wrote:
My hydra den cause some funky pathing, so I had to build a weird, out of place sunken to fix it, and then later in the game, it randomly decided to break again ;;

Just the price to pay for playing against BigFan.... everyone would know when you lose, and not when you win

But honestly congrats to BigFan for improving in his BW play.
Please send me a PM of any song you like that I most probably never heard of! I am looking for people to chat about writing and producing music | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noD-bsOcxuU |
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
October 02 2019 01:55 GMT
#11
Well, no one is stopping John from posting his own battle reports! :O

On a more serious note, I haven't record an FPV in ages and this game just happened to be the first one I recorded so figured that I must share it!

Thanks! Now stop doj-ing me and let's get some games going!
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
EsportsJohn
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4883 Posts
October 02 2019 07:15 GMT
#12
On October 01 2019 10:01 BigFan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2019 06:23 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
What a game. 33:33 is a Terran's dream. Would love to see Zergs point of view. Btw, there's something funny going on with the gas mining at the Z nat at 32mins.

My guess is that john saw the vessels coming in and just clicked on the gas then realized that made things worse and tried to spread them out lol.

Show nested quote +
On September 30 2019 07:46 FlaShFTW wrote:
On September 29 2019 20:55 JieXian wrote:
dat thumbnailz

On September 26 2019 23:38 FlaShFTW wrote:
War of Attrition: Bigfan dodges you until you're so tired of it that when he finally agrees to play you, you're so mentally exhausted. Excellent tactic. Art of War more like Art of Dodging.


Hahahaha and "I only play TvZ"

the classic matchup dodge.

Coming from the guy who quit playing the game! :>


It was more like, "Oh hey, he's trying to do eraser. I'll just burr-...fuck."
StrategyAllyssa Grey <3<3
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
The PiG Daily
06:30
Best Games of SC
Clem vs SHIN
herO vs SHIN
Serral vs Solar
Clem vs SHIN
Reynor vs TBD
LiquipediaDiscussion
AI Arena Tournament
01:00
Swiss - Round 6
Laughngamez YouTube
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Nina 152
StarCraft: Brood War
Shuttle 567
BeSt 279
910 70
sOs 56
Bale 20
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm250
League of Legends
JimRising 636
Super Smash Bros
Westballz16
Other Games
gofns32554
summit1g7422
WinterStarcraft703
RuFF_SC2100
Livibee46
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick573
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• practicex 35
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota2347
League of Legends
• Lourlo1106
• Rush1023
Other Games
• Shiphtur705
Upcoming Events
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3h 42m
OSC
6h 42m
IPSL
9h 42m
BSL Open Qualifier
12h 42m
WardiTV Weekly
1d 4h
IntoTheTV X SOOP
2 days
PiGosaur Cup
2 days
The PondCast
3 days
Kung Fu Cup
3 days
IntoTheTV X SOOP
4 days
[ Show More ]
FEL
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

ASL Season 22
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Copium Cup

Ongoing

Acropolis #5
IPSL Winter 2026-27
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 4
Acropolis #5 - GSC
HCC Season 3
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026

Upcoming

BSL Season 23
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
eXTREMESLAND 2026
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.