• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 22:18
CET 04:18
KST 12:18
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT0Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book16Clem wins HomeStory Cup 289HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview13Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info8
Community News
Weekly Cups (Feb 9-15): herO doubles up0ACS replaced by "ASL Season Open" - Starts 21/0224LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals (Feb 10-16)43Weekly Cups (Feb 2-8): Classic, Solar, MaxPax win2Nexon's StarCraft game could be FPS, led by UMS maker13
StarCraft 2
General
ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT Weekly Cups (Feb 9-15): herO doubles up Nexon's StarCraft game could be FPS, led by UMS maker How do you think the 5.0.15 balance patch (Oct 2025) for StarCraft II has affected the game? StarCraft 1 & 2 Added to Xbox Game Pass
Tourneys
LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals (Feb 10-16) WardiTV Team League Season 10 PIG STY FESTIVAL 7.0! (19 Feb - 1 Mar) $5,000 WardiTV Winter Championship 2026 StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly)
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ? [A] Starcraft Sound Mod
External Content
Mutation # 513 Attrition Warfare The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 512 Overclocked Mutation # 511 Temple of Rebirth
Brood War
General
TvZ is the most complete match up Gypsy to Korea Which units you wish saw more use in the game? Ladder maps - how we can make blizz update them? BW General Discussion
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 1 Small VOD Thread 2.0 KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Zealot bombing is no longer popular? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Current Meta
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread ZeroSpace Megathread Diablo 2 thread Path of Exile Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Ask and answer stupid questions here! Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
The Search For Meaning in Vi…
TrAiDoS
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1774 users

Love for the Game (x2)

Blogs > BigFan
Post a Reply
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-09-26 02:45:47
September 26 2019 02:42 GMT
#1
Hi all,

It's been a while since I last wrote a blog so I figured that I'll share one of my recent games with everyone. I haven't played anywhere as much as usual since I stepped down as BW EiC, but I have gotten some interesting back and forth games, and I feel like my skill level has gotten close to what it was before. The game is still as amazing as ever when two players who are closely matched in skill play each other and I highly recommend any readers who want to try BW take the plunge and give it a go. We also just got colors added in the newest patch so there's that to look forward too as well! :D

On that note, late game TvZ is still as hard, fun and rewarding as I remember. You essentially have to:
1) Keep macro going at all times to avoid missing production cycles and keep income going.
2) Keep tabs on the Zerg at all times for expansion timings, army movement etc...
3) Stay aggressive so that the Zerg doesn't get out of control, involving lots of scans and irradiation.
4) Micro properly against ultraling with defiler and lurker support. Plague+swarm is a deadly combo.
5) Stay defensive with just enough units at your mining bases because a Zerg army can strike and retreat quickly.

Obligatory: "Defilers are still an imba unit!"



Here are some must-watch moments for those that don't want to watch the whole thing:
a) Not great, not good, pretty bad...
b) I'm listening ~
c) First One
d) Endless
e) The Snipe
f) Here's Another
g) Maximum Power?
h) Spidey Sense!
i) Oops...
j) Plague imba
k) IMMORTAL vessels!
l) Gonna do this all night?
m) The time is nigh!
n) End in sight?
o) End in sight? x2
p) GG

a), e), h), and k) are my favourites. I also apparently play better in SD mode than RM with the bigger widescreen, go figure. Let me know what you guys think and let's all bask in the glory that is TvZ

**
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Ty2
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United States1434 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-09-26 03:07:58
September 26 2019 03:04 GMT
#2
--- Nuked ---
Writer
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10303 Posts
September 26 2019 14:38 GMT
#3
War of Attrition: Bigfan dodges you until you're so tired of it that when he finally agrees to play you, you're so mentally exhausted. Excellent tactic. Art of War more like Art of Dodging.
Writer#1 KT and FlaSh Fanboy || Woo Jung Ho Never Forget || Teamliquid Political Decision Desk
TL+ Member
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
September 26 2019 20:05 GMT
#4
On September 26 2019 12:04 Ty2 wrote:
Watching the sick hold vs ultras at h). Look at all of Zerg's bases and am astounded Bigfan somehow wins... Then looks at 13k/6k bank and not so astounded anymore...

Jokes aside, cool blog.

Best moment for me:
[image loading]

haha well, I only started banking heavily after I maxed. I think I was at 3.5k? on 3 mining bases at like 165 supply. That bank is the reason I was in it since I mined out most of my bases.

On September 26 2019 23:38 FlaShFTW wrote:
War of Attrition: Bigfan dodges you until you're so tired of it that when he finally agrees to play you, you're so mentally exhausted. Excellent tactic. Art of War more like Art of Dodging.

Nice try. That's not how it works, but that's a very good strategy. I should try it sometime!
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
September 26 2019 21:23 GMT
#5
What a game. 33:33 is a Terran's dream. Would love to see Zergs point of view. Btw, there's something funny going on with the gas mining at the Z nat at 32mins.
EsportsJohn
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4883 Posts
September 28 2019 08:23 GMT
#6
My hydra den cause some funky pathing, so I had to build a weird, out of place sunken to fix it, and then later in the game, it randomly decided to break again ;;
StrategyAllyssa Grey <3<3
JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-09-29 11:56:42
September 29 2019 11:55 GMT
#7
dat thumbnailz

On September 26 2019 23:38 FlaShFTW wrote:
War of Attrition: Bigfan dodges you until you're so tired of it that when he finally agrees to play you, you're so mentally exhausted. Excellent tactic. Art of War more like Art of Dodging.


Hahahaha and "I only play TvZ"
Please send me a PM of any song you like that I most probably never heard of! I am looking for people to chat about writing and producing music | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noD-bsOcxuU |
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10303 Posts
September 29 2019 22:46 GMT
#8
On September 29 2019 20:55 JieXian wrote:
dat thumbnailz

Show nested quote +
On September 26 2019 23:38 FlaShFTW wrote:
War of Attrition: Bigfan dodges you until you're so tired of it that when he finally agrees to play you, you're so mentally exhausted. Excellent tactic. Art of War more like Art of Dodging.


Hahahaha and "I only play TvZ"

the classic matchup dodge.
Writer#1 KT and FlaSh Fanboy || Woo Jung Ho Never Forget || Teamliquid Political Decision Desk
TL+ Member
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
October 01 2019 01:01 GMT
#9
On September 27 2019 06:23 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
What a game. 33:33 is a Terran's dream. Would love to see Zergs point of view. Btw, there's something funny going on with the gas mining at the Z nat at 32mins.

My guess is that john saw the vessels coming in and just clicked on the gas then realized that made things worse and tried to spread them out lol.

On September 30 2019 07:46 FlaShFTW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2019 20:55 JieXian wrote:
dat thumbnailz

On September 26 2019 23:38 FlaShFTW wrote:
War of Attrition: Bigfan dodges you until you're so tired of it that when he finally agrees to play you, you're so mentally exhausted. Excellent tactic. Art of War more like Art of Dodging.


Hahahaha and "I only play TvZ"

the classic matchup dodge.

Coming from the guy who quit playing the game! :>
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-10-01 07:22:26
October 01 2019 07:20 GMT
#10
On September 28 2019 17:23 EsportsJohn wrote:
My hydra den cause some funky pathing, so I had to build a weird, out of place sunken to fix it, and then later in the game, it randomly decided to break again ;;

Just the price to pay for playing against BigFan.... everyone would know when you lose, and not when you win

But honestly congrats to BigFan for improving in his BW play.
Please send me a PM of any song you like that I most probably never heard of! I am looking for people to chat about writing and producing music | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noD-bsOcxuU |
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
October 02 2019 01:55 GMT
#11
Well, no one is stopping John from posting his own battle reports! :O

On a more serious note, I haven't record an FPV in ages and this game just happened to be the first one I recorded so figured that I must share it!

Thanks! Now stop doj-ing me and let's get some games going!
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
EsportsJohn
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4883 Posts
October 02 2019 07:15 GMT
#12
On October 01 2019 10:01 BigFan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2019 06:23 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
What a game. 33:33 is a Terran's dream. Would love to see Zergs point of view. Btw, there's something funny going on with the gas mining at the Z nat at 32mins.

My guess is that john saw the vessels coming in and just clicked on the gas then realized that made things worse and tried to spread them out lol.

Show nested quote +
On September 30 2019 07:46 FlaShFTW wrote:
On September 29 2019 20:55 JieXian wrote:
dat thumbnailz

On September 26 2019 23:38 FlaShFTW wrote:
War of Attrition: Bigfan dodges you until you're so tired of it that when he finally agrees to play you, you're so mentally exhausted. Excellent tactic. Art of War more like Art of Dodging.


Hahahaha and "I only play TvZ"

the classic matchup dodge.

Coming from the guy who quit playing the game! :>


It was more like, "Oh hey, he's trying to do eraser. I'll just burr-...fuck."
StrategyAllyssa Grey <3<3
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
OSC
00:00
OSC Elite Rising Star #17.5
CranKy Ducklings144
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RuFF_SC2 240
Nathanias 88
StarCraft: Brood War
Artosis 729
sorry 82
NaDa 61
Noble 20
Light 0
Dota 2
monkeys_forever896
NeuroSwarm180
febbydoto22
LuMiX1
League of Legends
Trikslyr77
Counter-Strike
taco 533
Other Games
summit1g12329
Day[9].tv797
JimRising 631
C9.Mang0482
KnowMe196
WinterStarcraft169
Maynarde141
ZombieGrub35
minikerr9
Organizations
Other Games
BasetradeTV155
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• HeavenSC 13
• Response 1
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Scarra1878
Other Games
• Day9tv797
Upcoming Events
WardiTV Winter Champion…
8h 42m
PiGosaur Cup
21h 42m
Replay Cast
1d 5h
WardiTV Winter Champion…
1d 8h
Replay Cast
1d 20h
PiG Sty Festival
2 days
Maru vs Bunny
Classic vs SHIN
The PondCast
2 days
KCM Race Survival
2 days
WardiTV Winter Champion…
2 days
OSC
2 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
2 days
PiG Sty Festival
3 days
Clem vs Percival
Zoun vs Solar
Epic.LAN
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
PiG Sty Festival
4 days
herO vs NightMare
Reynor vs Cure
CranKy Ducklings
4 days
Epic.LAN
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
PiG Sty Festival
5 days
Serral vs YoungYakov
ByuN vs ShoWTimE
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Wardi Open
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

C-League Week 31
LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Nations Cup 2026
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: King of Kings
[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 1st Round
[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 1st Round Qualifier
Spring Cup 2026: China & Korea Invitational
[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 2nd Round
[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 2nd Round Qualifier
Acropolis #4
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
RSL Revival: Season 4
WardiTV Winter 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
FISSURE Playground #3
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.