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azndsh
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States4447 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-06-03 11:04:25
June 03 2007 09:05 GMT
#1
Lame. I just lost like half an hour worth of typing. Anyway, I've decided to kind of alternate posts between my life and progaming.

So what determines whether a player is popular or not.

Skill: If you don't have skill now or ever in the past, it doesn't what other characteristics you may posess.
+ Savior, iloveOov
- Child

Play Style: Are you interesting to watch or not? Do you do the same cookie-cutter macro builds or do you bring something exciting every game?
+ July, Nal_rA
- Justin, most terrans

Personality: Winning ceremonies, interviews, gossip. This can really go both ways, as some people may like and others will dislike certain personalities.
+/- Midas, Chalrenge, Zeus

Age: How well established a player is; how many years he's been around in the pro gaming circuit. Also, new Protoss players stand out much more than new Terran players
+ Garimto
- Darkelf, 910, go.go, FreeDom, Sheis, Shine, etc.


Other factors that may also affect popularity, but generally not as applicable to all players

Bandwagon: A few incidents can be interpreted by a few respected forum members (read: blue names) to make judgments about a player, especially a new one. Also, for new members to TL, the consensus has generally been established already.
+ Bisu

Screennames: Cool ones instantly win points, while lame ones are instantly made fun of. Taking your name after another progamer is also uncool. Also, changing your handle multiple times, especially to something stupid is looked down upon.
+ FireBatHero
- Yell0w[Name]

Looks: One way to win a lot of female fans at least.
+ Yellow, Xellos
[Edit: If you are looking for Reach, he has his own section below.]

Race: Personal preference. For me, that means Zerg.

Beating popular players: Especially for newer players that are only known because they beat everyone's favorites without ever playing spectacularly or anything.
- Shinhwa

Of course, no discussion of popularity would be complete without mentioning the two most popular players of all time, at least on TeamLiquid.

Boxer. He's always been near the top, extremely entertaining play, really modest and mature guy, been around forever, pioneered the game, the face of StarCraft progaming.

Reach. Definitely skilled (or at least used to be), manly play style, cool guy, been around for years, protoss user, very vocal fanbase, and very good looks.
[Edit: Don't get wrong me wrong though, he's awesome for more than just his looks]

I would say these two guys are two players that 99% of TL always roots for regardless of everything else (there's actually one exception for me: if their opponent is Savior )


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mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
June 03 2007 09:11 GMT
#2
Well thought out. Everything is 100% true.

Well, I'm not sure if Reach has that much of a anbase compared to boxer, but he DOES seem to be very popular on TL. Perhaps he also fits under "bandwagon" sometimes?
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SpaNiarD
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Spain352 Posts
June 03 2007 09:29 GMT
#3
yea i think Reach and Boxer are the best ppl in korea with garimto (i mean in personality)
useLess
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States4781 Posts
June 03 2007 10:27 GMT
#4
I was about to break some legs when I didnt see Reach under the Looks category.
Moonlight Shadow
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20163 Posts
June 03 2007 10:41 GMT
#5

+ Yellow, Xellos


XELLOS? YOU PICK XELLOS OVER REACH? REFRAIN FROM BLOGGING EVER AGAIN
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
Koldblooded
Profile Joined July 2006
United States661 Posts
June 03 2007 10:55 GMT
#6
On June 03 2007 19:41 decafchicken wrote:

+ Yellow, Xellos


XELLOS? YOU PICK XELLOS OVER REACH? REFRAIN FROM BLOGGING EVER AGAIN


don't not blog again, but replace xellos with reach
By.Flash fighting
azndsh
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States4447 Posts
June 03 2007 11:01 GMT
#7
On June 03 2007 19:41 decafchicken wrote:

+ Yellow, Xellos


XELLOS? YOU PICK XELLOS OVER REACH? REFRAIN FROM BLOGGING EVER AGAIN


*sigh*

Reach had his own reserved spot. If you were an observant reader, you would have noticed I tried to refrain from using anyone more than once.
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20665 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-06-03 14:17:03
June 03 2007 14:16 GMT
#8
Reach? bandwagon-ish? I don't know. I was Reach fan throughout his slump, when everyone seemed to forget Hero of Protoss ;;

He has a lot of summertime fans, I think, who are his fans when he's doing well, and abandon him when he is in slump T_T

so I guess kinda bandwagon-ish.

edit: a lot of new Protosses create bandwagons. Anytime and Bisu -_-; I never really liked either of them.
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KizZBG
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
u gotta skate8152 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-06-03 14:24:49
June 03 2007 14:23 GMT
#9
On June 03 2007 18:05 azndsh wrote:
Play Style: Are you interesting to watch or not? Do you do the same cookie-cutter macro builds or do you bring something exciting every game?
+ July, Nal_rA, UpMagiC
- Justin, most terrans


How could you miss that? o.O

I think these days there are VERY few terrans worth watching.
eSTRO for life | #2 Sea.Really fan! | #1 GosI[Flying] fan! | Clide - best SC2 terran!
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
June 03 2007 15:04 GMT
#10
i actally like to see boxer lose, since his wins are valued rather heavily relative to his losses by most people.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Klogon
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
MURICA15980 Posts
June 03 2007 16:03 GMT
#11
I believe Garimto has a much bigger fanbase in Korea (or did... I'm out of things nowadays) than you'd think.
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20665 Posts
June 04 2007 02:43 GMT
#12
On June 04 2007 01:03 Klogon wrote:
I believe Garimto has a much bigger fanbase in Korea (or did... I'm out of things nowadays) than you'd think.


quite. supposedly he's one of the 100% success rate progamers [at nightclub]
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HydraRulz
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
Romania36 Posts
June 04 2007 06:58 GMT
#13
reach has crispy fans :D
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
June 08 2007 09:44 GMT
#14
I will root against even Boxer or Reach if my liquibet point is on the line.

I am soulless.
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