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Thoughts on Reaching Masters in Hindsight PT IIII

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guitarizt
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1492 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-18 18:54:52
March 18 2016 18:51 GMT
#1
Remember that scene in the matrix when they're questioning morpheus for the codes to zion? They're wondering why the truth serum isn't working, then one of the agents says, "Maybe we're asking the wrong questions."

This is how I feel about lower level players when they're trying to improve at the game. It happens to higher level players, but obviously at a higher level. I still feel this way. I honestly don't feel much better than when I was in diamond, it's just knowing some more tricks that happen to work in all the match ups.

One example is lower level players worrying about hotkeying armies, creep spread, inject methods, and micro. I suck at all this stuff. It's ok if you want to improve at it, but it takes _forever_ to get this all down cleanly, and besides, it's macro that is king. The best player for you to copy is the slowest one who micros the least. This is because they have a good grasp of what's going on in the game, and then it turns into a game where you're literally just playing yourself. You realize, "Oh P is doing a 2 base allin. Ofc they are those stupid P players. I'm surprised they could even find the power button on their pc. Stupid P race, so broken I know it's coming and it's still hard to hold, but I droned up properly and scouted the allin on time, so now all I have to do is make roaches and lings and a-move." <-- You're not worried about creep spread, strategy or tactics, or anything else. It's just injects, ovs, units.

If you can get good at finding those spots you'll get insanely better. In contrast, if you have [insert pro name here] creep spread and micro but poor macro and don't notice those spots, you're f'ed. The lower level you are, the faster and easier it is to do the first thing than the last thing ^.

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brian
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States9643 Posts
March 21 2016 20:44 GMT
#2
4 is IV in Roman numerals tho
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5188 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-21 22:30:26
March 21 2016 22:18 GMT
#3
On March 22 2016 05:44 brian wrote:
4 is IV in Roman numerals tho

Maybe we're making the wrong corrections?
^^
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guitarizt
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1492 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-21 22:22:15
March 21 2016 22:21 GMT
#4
On March 22 2016 05:44 brian wrote:
4 is IV in Roman numerals tho


hahaha, this is what happens when I write that many posts after waking up. It looks like the blog posts are kinda boring anyway so I'll try some videos next. I hate writing anyway.
“There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self.” - Hemingway
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19260 Posts
March 22 2016 16:02 GMT
#5
why'd you split these up?
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