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The Reverse of Writer's Block? Two New Piano Songs

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[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
July 07 2015 02:56 GMT
#1
I'm still writing my metal opera at this point. I've been on vacations all of June, but before I left I managed to finish writing the full score for 2 of the 12 tracks and disseminate them to the proper musicians. Now that I'm finally back, my goal is to get at least 8 done, and save the longest four (7, 8, 7 and 12 minutes) for either weekends during the autumn, or winter break.

Recordings take place all of school year, and then I can finish the production work and release the full album in May. It's a shaky plan but it's a good template for where I want to be.

The problem is, I love my opera, and I love writing music, and I've done everything I can to make these 12 tracks sound (at least in theory, we'll see how it sounds during the recording sessions) the best way possible, but everyone's patience has a breaking point. Here's an example:

Pick your favorite album. Now listen to it 10 times a day for the next 2 months. If you want, you can go track by track, and just listen to a single song from that album for a whole week. Better yet, find a raw demo of that track somewhere online, and listen to that instead. Find everything you can with that song that doesn't sound right. Make a list, and then go back and make sure you got everything. Eventually your brain will turn to mush, so go to sleep, wake up, and see if you can find anything new.

I have a good idea of the parts that make up the whole. For song X, I want riff Y, underscored by drum line Z, with violins/violas forming a Ф chord, etc. etc. leading into a solo by instrument Ю based around the note Σ. Note to self - send the player of Ю the score when done and see what he comes up with so you can base your own solo ص on it. The problem is balancing out the parts, how maybe everything sounds good on its own, and when I try to combine four of the lines, three of them sound good together and then whoops number four fucks everything up. And I still haven't added in the singers.

The point of all this is, while I'm trying to stack all of this stuff on top of itself, I'm still coming up with new musical ideas, and coming up with them fast. Especially during the periods of time where I have to listen to the same half-written song over and over for the whole day after I come home from work. If this project turns out to be financially successful, I already have pretty concrete plans for a second and third opera ready to be scored, and I've written the first and last song for a new, darker project.

So, I have a bunch of ideas I'm kicking around. Once I finish scoring, I might compile a fourth neoclassical album and finish it off while I'm sitting around in the recording studio and otherwise not using any creative power for the time being.

So now to the fun part. Here's two raw ideas I've had for the piano:

https://soundcloud.com/mikhail-garrievitch-soumar/in-the-arms-of-the-wailing-wind-demo
In the Arms of the Wailing Wind - Melodies on top of melodies. Almost sounds like one of the dreamier songs off my last neoclassical effort. Which everyone should listen to.

https://soundcloud.com/mikhail-garrievitch-soumar/she-reeks-of-seduction-demo
She Reeks of Seduction - Nice cathartic idea I had. Middle sounded empty so I added a third hand on top of it. But otherwise it's just a reflection of my favorite kind of jam session. Hammering octaves with the right hand, spamming arpeggios at lightspeed with the left, swaying back and forth like a drunk the whole way through.

Things are looking good. I feel rested now.

*****
Нас зовет дух отцов, память старых бойцов, дух Москвы и твердыня Полтавы
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
July 07 2015 08:14 GMT
#2
Wow... I'm sorry I never listened to your music before. You're actually really really good. Very impressive.
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TojoSCO
Profile Joined June 2015
24 Posts
July 07 2015 08:41 GMT
#3
I admire your work ethic! How do you remain organised with so many different ideas cropping up? Do you just note down ideas you aren't able to work on, and come back to them later?

Good luck with your opera!
I never sleep, 'cause sleep is the cousin of death. sOs, ByuL, Maru, Rogue, herO <3
SoSexy
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Italy3725 Posts
July 07 2015 08:52 GMT
#4
HOLY CRAP DUDE YOU'RE FUCKING GOOD WTF!
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y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
July 07 2015 09:06 GMT
#5
was a pleasure to listen to!
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
July 07 2015 10:41 GMT
#6
On July 07 2015 17:14 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Wow... I'm sorry I never listened to your music before. You're actually really really good. Very impressive.

Better late than never
On July 07 2015 17:41 TojoSCO wrote:
I admire your work ethic! How do you remain organised with so many different ideas cropping up? Do you just note down ideas you aren't able to work on, and come back to them later?

Good luck with your opera!

I just earmark it in memory. If I forget it, I'll either remember it at some point or just come up with something new. If I forget the first idea, it was probably too forgettable to begin with.
Нас зовет дух отцов, память старых бойцов, дух Москвы и твердыня Полтавы
mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
July 07 2015 21:26 GMT
#7
Dude this sounds great! I kinda feel the same way about playing guitar (the remember if it's good and forget if not thing) but I'm obviously not on your level :D
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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-07 21:31:14
July 07 2015 21:31 GMT
#8
This is pretty good and makes me wish I could actually play quickly enough to make something similar. >.<
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[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
July 08 2015 00:57 GMT
#9
I might start up a new project over the fall. I only have ~55 minutes left on my Soundcloud for more stuff (if I get rid of the demos and clean up some other things), and I'll need time to move everything to my Youtube repository, hype it back up for a few dozen extra views, etc. Usually 55 would be enough for a full-length for me (Nightlust was 54:20) but I want to shove in a 25-minute song which would constrain what I could do with the rest of the album. Either cut down the number of tracks, or shorten the songs, and neither option is one I like.

So in the meantime, instead of a fourth full-length album, I was thinking of doing something a little more StarCraft-centric, and write a few songs, at least one for each race, using both BW/SC2 motifs and some of my own, and do a revival of the BW soundtrack. I've been looking at the UED, the first/second Overmind, the Protoss journey/extinction, and I want to encapsulate some of those ideas. And then 3 10-minute songs instead of a 65-minute album means I don't have to move anything around on my soundcloud.
Нас зовет дух отцов, память старых бойцов, дух Москвы и твердыня Полтавы
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
July 08 2015 01:08 GMT
#10
Nice job! Sounds pretty good actually.
JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-08 05:40:20
July 08 2015 05:36 GMT
#11
great skills and very nice ideas Do you post songs on youtube? there was a TL member who had a similar style but his music was on yotube.

some feedback :
https://soundcloud.com/mikhail-garrievitch-soumar/she-reeks-of-seduction-demo -- was distorting in the beginning :/ Learning your DAW well is very important
Please send me a PM of any song you like that I most probably never heard of! I am looking for people to chat about writing and producing music | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noD-bsOcxuU |
MysteryMeat1
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States3292 Posts
July 08 2015 06:38 GMT
#12
On July 07 2015 17:14 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Wow... I'm sorry I never listened to your music before. You're actually really really good. Very impressive.



He's probably my most listened to artist on sound cloud
"Cause ya know, Style before victory." -The greatest mafia player alive
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
July 08 2015 13:40 GMT
#13
On July 08 2015 14:36 JieXian wrote:
great skills and very nice ideas Do you post songs on youtube? there was a TL member who had a similar style but his music was on yotube.

some feedback :
https://soundcloud.com/mikhail-garrievitch-soumar/she-reeks-of-seduction-demo -- was distorting in the beginning :/ Learning your DAW well is very important

youtube.com/wearesentinel

Pretty much if it ain't on my soundcloud, it's on there.

I knew you were going to say something about the static <3 I tried a few things to get rid of it on the other one, but with the She Reeks of Seduction demo I just decided to slam it out without too much attention to detail. Whichever project I end up doing (SC or 4th album), I'll have everything at proper levels by then
Нас зовет дух отцов, память старых бойцов, дух Москвы и твердыня Полтавы
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23202 Posts
July 08 2015 22:18 GMT
#14
I knew as soon as I clicked on this it was going to be good. Wish you were a Bernie supporter, could use your music for some videos lol.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
July 08 2015 22:50 GMT
#15
On July 09 2015 07:18 GreenHorizons wrote:
I knew as soon as I clicked on this it was going to be good. Wish you were a Bernie supporter, could use your music for some videos lol.

You're still more than welcome to use any of my songs you want. It's all up to the listener to interpret what they hear, and if you think it would suit a Bernie video, go right ahead
Нас зовет дух отцов, память старых бойцов, дух Москвы и твердыня Полтавы
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23202 Posts
July 08 2015 22:54 GMT
#16
On July 09 2015 07:50 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2015 07:18 GreenHorizons wrote:
I knew as soon as I clicked on this it was going to be good. Wish you were a Bernie supporter, could use your music for some videos lol.

You're still more than welcome to use any of my songs you want. It's all up to the listener to interpret what they hear, and if you think it would suit a Bernie video, go right ahead


Thanks! I'll let you know if one does get used.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
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