• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 21:35
CET 03:35
KST 11:35
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros10[ASL20] Finals Preview: Arrival13
Community News
[TLMC] Fall/Winter 2025 Ladder Map Rotation12Weekly Cups (Nov 3-9): Clem Conquers in Canada4SC: Evo Complete - Ranked Ladder OPEN ALPHA8StarCraft, SC2, HotS, WC3, Returning to Blizzcon!45$5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship7
StarCraft 2
General
RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview [TLMC] Fall/Winter 2025 Ladder Map Rotation TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview Mech is the composition that needs teleportation t
Tourneys
RSL Revival: Season 3 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Constellation Cup - Main Event - Stellar Fest Tenacious Turtle Tussle Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2)
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 499 Chilling Adaptation Mutation # 498 Wheel of Misfortune|Cradle of Death Mutation # 497 Battle Haredened Mutation # 496 Endless Infection
Brood War
General
FlaSh on: Biggest Problem With SnOw's Playstyle BW General Discussion What happened to TvZ on Retro? Brood War web app to calculate unit interactions [ASL20] Ask the mapmakers — Drop your questions
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0 [BSL21] RO32 Group D - Sunday 21:00 CET [BSL21] RO32 Group C - Saturday 21:00 CET
Strategy
Current Meta Simple Questions, Simple Answers PvZ map balance How to stay on top of macro?
Other Games
General Games
Path of Exile Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Clair Obscur - Expedition 33 Beyond All Reason
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640}
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Artificial Intelligence Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! Korean Music Discussion Series you have seen recently...
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion NBA General Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Dyadica Gospel – a Pulp No…
Hildegard
Coffee x Performance in Espo…
TrAiDoS
Saturation point
Uldridge
DnB/metal remix FFO Mick Go…
ImbaTosS
Reality "theory" prov…
perfectspheres
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2007 users

Daily Ladder-age #4: Standard Ol' PvT

Blogs > Sir.Phalanx
Post a Reply
Sir.Phalanx
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Japan195 Posts
May 12 2013 13:00 GMT
#1
A great Sunday of sitting around wasting my time, playing a couple of games of SC2. This actually wasn't my first game played of the day, but I went on a 4-5 game losing streak so I just didn't feel like using those games to write about today. Once I finally won a game, it was extremely uninteresting... but the show must go on.

From today I'll be trying to make these self-analyses written in a form similar to "battle reports" (thankyou to GaNgStaRR.ElV for the suggestion to try it out!). I'm sure anyone who even would have the time to waste to read some unknown blog would be far too lazy to download that replay, so making a bunch of pictures might get more readers... Worth a shot anyways!

replay : http://drop.sc/333694

Early Game
+ Show Spoiler +
A PvT on the map Zerus Prime. Nothing crazy starting off the game, and my scouting probe going out at 9 (hereby dubbed "Johnson") manages to find the enemy's base right off the bat. Johnson's brave scouting allows me to see the terran taking a fast refinery.

[image loading]

As a reaction... or rather, as I always do regardless of what I scout, I open with 2 fast gasses, saving up until my cybernetics core is finished, at which point I have just enough gas to get a stalker, MSC, and warpgate all at the same time. To be honest I'm quite proud of how perfectly that one timing fits in, although I'm sure some professional build order somewhere has the exact same opening BO.

[image loading]
specific Build Order; 9 pylon/scout 12 gateway 14 assimilator 15 assimilator 17 pylon/cybernetics core 22 warpgate/stalker/MSC (21 if scouting probe died)

Probe Johnson also managed to leave his mark on this map by placing a semi-proxy pylon. I've been trying to get into a habit of having a pylon fairly nearby the enemy base so that I can warp in later after a good engagement. In this instance I decided to make my 2nd pylon away from my base to hopefully throw off the terran after he scouted and only saw 1 pylon.

[image loading]
Shhhh I'm hiding.

Thanks to my build of getting the first stalker fast, my enemy's first reaper is thwarted without receiving a single probe kill.

I sensed some weakness in the terran's defenses at home, so I decided to get up 3 warpgates up fast to do some pressure. Using my first stalker and MSC I quickly moved to the ramp... the pressure was seen coming from a long ways away, and all the stalkers could pick off was a supply depot, but since no stalkers were lost (thanks to that handy dandy recall!) it still was a plus for me.

[image loading]
Darn you city folk and your flying machine!


Mid Game
+ Show Spoiler +
Still highly standard game. Terran enemy goes for that standard push as soon as his 2 medivacs are completed... Meanwhile I rush towards getting my first colossus out while grabbing 2 forges for fast 1/1 upgrades.

[image loading]
Pictured above; A bad protoss player scrambling to get up all of his infastructure.

The attack hits as expected. Thanks to the mother ship core (which I actually kept alive for once!) the attack is quite handily held off, although my colossus was lost due to a momentary lag spike T.T Utilizing OP target firing the colossus falls quickly, although his role was more than fulfilled by softening up all those marines. The Photon Overcharge cleans up the stragglers.

[image loading]
Eat your photons, they're good for you.

The remainder of the portion which I would consider the "mid game" wraped up with nothing else occuring, other than an attempted drop at my under-construction 3rd base. A quick a-move along with phoenix clean up concluded the mid game.

[image loading]
DIS PHOENIX OUT FO BLOOOD


End Game
+ Show Spoiler +
After suffering a few losses in a row on the ladders, the ending to this game was uninteresting easy. The terran looked again for an attack, but my unit composition was just far too superior. A mixture of phoenix to combat vikings/deny drops, colossi with ETL, and zealots for meatshield manages to win the day. A sorry excuse for a pre-positioned concave actually worked out fairly well, resulting in a slaughter of MMM. Phoenix also proved very useful vs the vikings.

[image loading]
Smashing victory!

A huge contributor to the absolute slaughter of that army probably is the upgrade advantage. Moments before the attack commenced, my 2/2 upgrades finished up, giving me the upgrade edge. I'm sure that many terran players are also not yet used to a style of PvT in which phoenix are utilized to make colossi a much bigger threat than before.

That battle basically allowed me to walk right into my enemy's base and win. Didn't even need any buttons other than A, and I even had some time to dance. GG

[image loading]
Photobombed by phoenix


And so another game is concluded. Not a very satisfying win, but none the less a win. Hope to see you again on next time (hopefully tomorrow if I actually keep this up!) in some more Ladder-age!

*trying to write in this style with pictures is quite fun, and I think I'll be continuing this format from here on. Quite time consuming, however, compared to just using the replay. Hope the effort can get more readers

P.S. Support team Dark Onyx! We have cake!
http://darkonyxftw.com/
https://www.facebook.com/DarkOnyxFTW

P.S.S. Still more Corgi.


***
Go to school - Laddder - Sleep - repeat. Who needs a social life anyways.
DenTenker
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United States606 Posts
May 12 2013 15:02 GMT
#2
Nicely done. Pictures are awesome. :D
If your all in didn't work, you didn't pull the workers.
kaos00
Profile Joined September 2010
United States125 Posts
May 12 2013 17:21 GMT
#3
Reviewing your losses is more informative.
Emzeeshady
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada4203 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-12 18:01:14
May 12 2013 18:01 GMT
#4
--- Nuked ---
Sir.Phalanx
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Japan195 Posts
May 12 2013 21:05 GMT
#5
On May 13 2013 02:21 kaos00 wrote:
Reviewing your losses is more informative.


Haha yeah probably, but I was feeling pretty bummed out from my losses and just really couldn't feel like reviewing them.
Go to school - Laddder - Sleep - repeat. Who needs a social life anyways.
Emzeeshady
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada4203 Posts
May 12 2013 21:16 GMT
#6
--- Nuked ---
Sir.Phalanx
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Japan195 Posts
May 12 2013 21:50 GMT
#7
I'm in diamond league, my opening has been successful vs some low masters that I've faced on the ladder. I believe that my build is completely competent, if anything my only error is that I screw up micro or get supply blocked xD

Although not specifically "build order", my PvT is always zealot/colo/phoenix for it's core composition (only 6 phoenix, this seems like the magic number), and vs bio this seems to rock for me. VS the boost medivacs phoenix are brilliantly good at stopping drops too.
Go to school - Laddder - Sleep - repeat. Who needs a social life anyways.
Salivanth
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia1071 Posts
May 12 2013 23:28 GMT
#8
Oh wow, I actually played against this Terran Small world!

Why are you scouting at 9? You yourself admitted that you do the same thing whether you scout gas or not, rendering the scout useless. I'd move it to a Core scout, and if you find you're losing to things you can't scout, change it to a Gateway scout.
<@Wikt> so you are one of those nega-fans <@Wikt> that hates the company that makes a game and everything they stand for <@Wikt> but still plays the game <@Wikt> (like roughly 30% of blizzard's player base, maybe much more...)
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 7h 25m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
trigger 156
NeuroSwarm 140
RuFF_SC2 96
Vindicta 17
StarCraft: Brood War
Shuttle 871
NaDa 55
Sexy 52
Bale 7
Icarus 1
Dota 2
monkeys_forever121
LuMiX1
Counter-Strike
fl0m1761
Super Smash Bros
C9.Mang0238
Other Games
summit1g14441
gofns4061
JimRising 459
shahzam365
ViBE157
Maynarde122
Models2
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick826
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 78
• Sammyuel 72
• davetesta26
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota21520
Other Games
• Scarra613
• Shiphtur84
Upcoming Events
CranKy Ducklings
7h 25m
RSL Revival
7h 25m
herO vs Gerald
ByuN vs SHIN
Kung Fu Cup
9h 25m
Cure vs Reynor
Classic vs herO
IPSL
14h 25m
ZZZero vs rasowy
Napoleon vs KameZerg
OSC
16h 25m
BSL 21
17h 25m
Tarson vs Julia
Doodle vs OldBoy
eOnzErG vs WolFix
StRyKeR vs Aeternum
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 7h
RSL Revival
1d 7h
Reynor vs sOs
Maru vs Ryung
Kung Fu Cup
1d 9h
WardiTV Korean Royale
1d 9h
[ Show More ]
BSL 21
1d 17h
JDConan vs Semih
Dragon vs Dienmax
Tech vs NewOcean
TerrOr vs Artosis
IPSL
1d 17h
Dewalt vs WolFix
eOnzErG vs Bonyth
Replay Cast
1d 20h
Wardi Open
2 days
Monday Night Weeklies
2 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
3 days
BSL: GosuLeague
3 days
The PondCast
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
RSL Revival
5 days
BSL: GosuLeague
5 days
RSL Revival
6 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-11-07
Stellar Fest: Constellation Cup
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
SOOP Univ League 2025
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
CSCL: Masked Kings S3
SLON Tour Season 2
RSL Revival: Season 3
META Madness #9
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025

Upcoming

BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
HSC XXVIII
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026: Closed Qualifier
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.