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vOdToasT
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Sweden2870 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-19 06:25:53
November 19 2012 06:12 GMT
#1
When I think about Brood War, I often realize that I love the game. It's beautiful. The races, how they fight each other, using their abstract advantages. Watching a master push his race to the limit is truly magnificent.

And yet, it is only a game. I don't love it the same way I can love an intelligent sentient life form. But I can't deny what I feel for Brood War, or what I think of it.

My point is, that I think there needs to be more words. Words for different kinds of love. I truly love my girlfriend. Even if her face got burnt and she became ugly, I'd stay with her. Even if she looked and sounded like a man, I would stay with her, because I love her mind.

I don't like that my love gets tossed in to the same category as people who base their relationships around sex, who do a bit of cuddling, and then claim to love each other. What they feel and think is not the same thing I do. My love for her isn't based on physical pleasure. It's not even based on the emotion of love. It's based on an intellectual approval of what her mind is. The love that I have isn't emotional - it's intellectual. The emotion comes and goes, but even when it's gone, I still love her. Because the love I have isn't an emotion. The emotion is just a side effect of my love.

Now, back to Brood War. When I want to describe how I feel about Brood War, and what I think about it, the most accurate thing I can say is that I love it.

I love Brood War.


But I feel that this belittles the love I have for my girlfriend. Brood War is, after all, not a mind. It can never talk to me. It is not aware of me. And no matter how magnificent it is, I can not have the same type of relationship with a game as I can with an intelligent sentient life forn. But, because there's only one word for love, it's the word I have to use.

We need more words, for different kinds of love. I would like if there was a word for intellectual love, as opposed to emotional love. I would also like if there was a word for the love of inanimate (possibly abstract) things. For example, the love of Brood War, of music, or other forms of art.
Also, the love of justice, and the love of the universe.

What are your thoughts on this?

*****
If it's stupid but it works, then it's not stupid* (*Or: You are stupid for losing to it, and gotta git gud)
Telsh
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States148 Posts
November 19 2012 08:26 GMT
#2
I like the idea of multiple words for love, as i too often feel similar feelings about many ideas, and pursuits!
Telsh
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States148 Posts
November 19 2012 08:27 GMT
#3
On November 19 2012 17:26 Telsh wrote:
I like the idea of multiple words for love, as i too often feel similar feelings about many ideas, and pursuits!


Similarly I feel the same way about chess
puppykiller
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States3137 Posts
November 19 2012 08:56 GMT
#4
I love BW as well. The game is beautiful, watching really skilled players is awe inspiring.
Why would I play sctoo when I can play BW?
Mstring
Profile Joined September 2011
Australia510 Posts
November 19 2012 09:04 GMT
#5
Some ideas and pursuits offer boundless possibilities and mysteries. Maybe that has something to do with love.
surfinbird1
Profile Joined September 2009
Germany999 Posts
November 19 2012 09:15 GMT
#6
How about "passionate" or "platonic love" or "admiration" or "adoration"?
life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery
ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
November 19 2012 09:38 GMT
#7
I want to make sweet, sweet love to BroodWar.
"If two pregnant women get into a fist fight, it's like a mecha-battle between two unborn babies." - Fyodor Dostoevsky
puppykiller
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States3137 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-19 09:51:15
November 19 2012 09:47 GMT
#8
Same here but usually I just end up getting raped.
Why would I play sctoo when I can play BW?
Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
November 19 2012 11:01 GMT
#9
Same, too bad sc2 ruined it
Lim Yo Hwan forever!
josemb40
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Peru611 Posts
November 19 2012 14:28 GMT
#10
<3 BW
wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
November 19 2012 17:11 GMT
#11
On November 19 2012 18:47 puppykiller wrote:
Same here but usually I just end up getting raped.

tough love
Writerptrk
FractalsOnFire
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Australia1756 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-19 17:20:13
November 19 2012 17:17 GMT
#12
On November 19 2012 15:12 vOdToasT wrote:
My love for her isn't based on physical pleasure. It's not even based on the emotion of love. It's based on an intellectual approval of what her mind is. The love that I have isn't emotional - it's intellectual. The emotion comes and goes, but even when it's gone, I still love her. Because the love I have isn't an emotion. The emotion is just a side effect of my love.


What happens if she becomes mentally disabled? Or turns into a vegetative state?

I am actually curious what your reaction would be if she did turn into a man. Whether your actions will backup your words. Granted you could still be friends but lovers? Hmm. Unless you were bi...
StarCraft2
Profile Joined October 2012
160 Posts
November 19 2012 19:23 GMT
#13
BW is the only woman I bother to fuck with my 100% focus, more than 30 times per day.

AND I watch the replays.
ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
November 19 2012 22:14 GMT
#14
On November 19 2012 20:01 Zoler wrote:
Same, too bad sc2 ruined it


SC2 is like that slutty chick that all the boys want, but is completely vapid and ambitionless, whereas BroodWar is like that awesome chick that truly loves you and wants you to be happy.
"If two pregnant women get into a fist fight, it's like a mecha-battle between two unborn babies." - Fyodor Dostoevsky
vOdToasT
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Sweden2870 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-29 17:58:55
December 29 2012 17:45 GMT
#15
On November 20 2012 02:17 FractalsOnFire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2012 15:12 vOdToasT wrote:
My love for her isn't based on physical pleasure. It's not even based on the emotion of love. It's based on an intellectual approval of what her mind is. The love that I have isn't emotional - it's intellectual. The emotion comes and goes, but even when it's gone, I still love her. Because the love I have isn't an emotion. The emotion is just a side effect of my love.


What happens if she becomes mentally disabled? Or turns into a vegetative state?

I am actually curious what your reaction would be if she did turn into a man. Whether your actions will backup your words. Granted you could still be friends but lovers? Hmm. Unless you were bi...


I would love her, and I would want to live with her, but we wouldn't have sex. If she (I'll use she since her brain, and therefor she, would still be female) demanded that I not have sex with anyone else, I'd just masturbate for the rest of my life, because I find her more important than sexual pleasure. If she didn't demand this, I would probably have sex with other people because I'm horny.

If she REALLY wanted to have sex with me, then I guess I could let her fuck me, for her sake. But I wouldn't enjoy it too much. Only a little bit because of knowing it was pleasing her.


I didn't think she was physically attractive when we started talking. I had only seen pictures of her in which she looked ugly (Yeah, we met online, IDGAF) but I still talked to her because I found her interesting mentally, but not physically. To me, an unattractive woman is the same as a man, in terms of sex. I won't do it with either. So I talked to her, got to know her, and started liking her, without the intention of having sex.
If she becomes mentally damaged, or becomes a vegetable, then who she is changes. I can not guarantee that I will still love her if her mind changes too much in a certain way, or takes damage, because it's changing who she is. It depends on how she changes and how much. I am aware that normal change throughout a persons life can change who they are as well, and that sort of change can also make me not love anymore.
If it's stupid but it works, then it's not stupid* (*Or: You are stupid for losing to it, and gotta git gud)
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