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Kukaracha
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April 16 2012 12:01 GMT
#21
On April 16 2012 09:11 Vod.kaholic wrote:

Ok
1) OP wasn't complaining about having to micro, he was just remarking how inefficient his army is when he doesn't micro because his brain goes on autopilot. He wasn't complaining about zerg having to micro.


Which is silly, because as long as you have a good positioning, no micro is needed, especially in the lower leagues. Late game, key fungals on Vikings are important, true, but nothing that compares to having to the other 2 races' midgame.

On April 16 2012 09:11 Vod.kaholic wrote:
2) Saying one race is the a-click race or the no-macro race, or the insta-win race or cheese race is a really narrow and uninformed view to have. If you're talking about how the race handles below master league, you're not really saying anything about the race itself because nobody is using it optimally, and at the pro level (where players are closer to optimal) every race requires roughly as much micro and macro as the others to be effective.

Hence, I sarcastically praised your uninformed comment.


Watch Stephano. Does he micro his Roaches in ZvP? No, he uses positioning but there is little to no micro involved. Watch Idra. Does he micro his units in ZvT? No, because he doesn't have units. He focuses on economy, map awareness and scouting. Simply because this is how Zerg works, late game aside.

I didn't say "a-click race" in a condescending way, but as a know characteristic of the Zerg early army. Even at pro level, you can't compare the unit potential between Zerg and Protoss, just like you can't compare the macro potential of both. Protoss makes Nexi, then Probes. Zerg double-expands, chooses between drones and army, spreads creep, spreads overlords, suicides units to scout. It is foolish to say that all races are identical at pro level.
Le long pour l'un pour l'autre est court (le mot-à-mot du mot "amour").
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