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d3_crescentia
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4054 Posts
October 13 2011 05:01 GMT
#1
For my 2001st post, I wanted to share some of my thoughts on how I got around to writing my 2000th post, which arose from my thoughts on how SC2 has changed the Starcraft scene in general. Note that I clearly haven't spent as much time writing this as I have writing my 2000th, so it's going to be very stream of consciousness. Also, it is a blog, so of course this is the case.




I was mostly prompted into writing this upon reflection of my own 2000th post, and similar milestone posts by other forum users. Some of you might remember hazelynut's 1000th, of which I contributed greatly to by filming and editing the footage into the hilarious video it is now:



To be accurate, I was actually approaching my milestone months before she did, and still I had a hell of a time coming up with a decent post topic. I'd done some science before during BW:

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Remember this? You probably don't, actually, but here's the thread in case you missed it the first time

And I'm pretty sure I wanted to do one of those again, but I was still sort of at a loss for a topic. During this time I had a number of ideas and inspirations for topics - a followup to Lalush's thread on Macro, a study of JulyZerg's 55-drone style in the GSL, or even a themed Mafia game in the TL subforums - all of which didn't really pan out for one reason or another.

To be fair, the more I tried to work on it, the more I was concerned about the kind of reception and impact it would have. At first I wanted to write something profound, or insightful, or even just damned funny, but in the end my most pressing concern was "how much will this contribute to the community?"




As Teamliquid continues to grow due to interest in SC2, one of my biggest concerns is - what will happen to the community? I only caught onto the tail end of Brood War, lurking from late 2008 and registering in mid-2009, but even then there was a different feel to the site.

Yes, a larger player/fanbase will inevitably drive up the idiot quotient no matter where you are on the internet, and with a new game some (!) balance complaints can be considered legitimate opinions, and so we have our share of complainers and whiners and trolls. Yes, with increased sponsorship there are more opportunities to put you in the spotlight for efame and youtube money, or for career opportunities in ESPORTS, so the stakes have been raised for players and the amount of drama has increased for everyone else.

But in the end, it's not the ratio of idiots to good posters that determines what the Teamliquid community is, nor however many people are trying to "go pro" or cash in on being an internet celebrity, nor is it just a set of numbers of streamviews through one particular site being tracked by corporations.

Perhaps this isn't the case for everyone that was here before me, but I certainly felt that there was an unwritten rule here after a few months of lurking - a distinction that made the difference between being a just a forum poster and a community member. To be a part of the community, you must contribute to the community - that was the way I felt. It didn't have to be a large contribution, nor did it have to happen on a regular basis (after all, it's no fun being serious all the time), but in the end it meant actually spending some time and effort in trying to make TL a better place.

It's kind of strange how this turned out, because now plenty of people will contribute to the development of SC2 with their wallets, or with streamviews and internet outrage, but all of these things are important for the fledgling industry of ESPORTS... yet contributing to ESPORTS isn't contributing to Teamliquid, though contributing to Teamliquid is contributing to ESPORTS. It's a strange thing, this sense of community, and as SC2 continues to grow the more concerns I have about TL devolving into just another forum where people bitch at each other over stupid shit... but so long as we have people trying to make TL a better place for everyone, whether you're staff or not (especially if you're not), then I think we'll be alright.



So, back to drone numbers and my 2k - I picked this because it was a relatively simple topic that would satisfy my math/sciencey urges, and that my previous searches yielded nothing on this specific topic. I did want to do something grandiose and potentially paradigm-shifting and all of that, but more importantly I wanted to help in whatever way I could, because that's what community members do.

In the end, despite whatever misgivings I had about some of the knowledge being obvious or not being significant or earth-shaking enough, I posted it - because no matter how small of a contribution it was, it was still indeed a contribution.

And, with all of the experiences I've had in the past 2 years in meeting other TL members and going to LANs and DC dinners and meeting people at MLGs and (recently) working at IPL, and especially whatever I've done to making this site a better place in spending my time on the internet... I'm proud to be a part of the TL community.

Here's to another 2001 awesome posts, and many more years to come.

*****
once, not long ago, there was a moon here
LuckyFool
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States9015 Posts
October 13 2011 05:04 GMT
#2
EPIC 2k and 2001 post omg.

you make a good drunk cop btw, you vs flamewheel in one of the mafia games was one of the more memorable moments for me. :D
aike
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1629 Posts
October 13 2011 05:20 GMT
#3
On October 13 2011 14:04 LuckyFool wrote:
EPIC 2k and 2001 post omg.

you make a good drunk cop btw, you vs flamewheel in one of the mafia games was one of the more memorable moments for me. :D


I hate how everybody keeps talking about this mafia game >.< I'm so jelly that I couldn't be there to play lol
Wahaha
Phelix
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
1931 Posts
October 13 2011 05:21 GMT
#4
On October 13 2011 14:04 LuckyFool wrote:
EPIC 2k and 2001 post omg.

you make a good drunk cop btw, you vs flamewheel in one of the mafia games was one of the more memorable moments for me. :D

I agree. That was a wtf moment for me, and how you don't remember the answer yes or no.
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LuckyFool
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States9015 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-13 05:21:54
October 13 2011 05:21 GMT
#5
On October 13 2011 14:20 aike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2011 14:04 LuckyFool wrote:
EPIC 2k and 2001 post omg.

you make a good drunk cop btw, you vs flamewheel in one of the mafia games was one of the more memorable moments for me. :D


I hate how everybody keeps talking about this mafia game >.< I'm so jelly that I couldn't be there to play lol



I know it's actually getting bad, this blog technically had nothing to do with IPL and I still talked about it...sigh. :x
d3_crescentia
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4054 Posts
October 13 2011 05:24 GMT
#6
On October 13 2011 14:21 Phelix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2011 14:04 LuckyFool wrote:
EPIC 2k and 2001 post omg.

you make a good drunk cop btw, you vs flamewheel in one of the mafia games was one of the more memorable moments for me. :D

I agree. That was a wtf moment for me, and how you don't remember the answer yes or no.

so the story behind this was - in the first round, I pointed to FW with my partner (deadz) and basically looked at him as HotBid was giving the Y/N, and once the morning came he kicked my foot to prompt me to speak

on Day 2 I remembered to check but unfortunately I got Y/N confused, thinking "yes he's town" not "yes he's mafia" which was silly
once, not long ago, there was a moon here
ShinyGerbil
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada519 Posts
October 13 2011 05:42 GMT
#7
cheers to 2k my math bro :D here's to another 2k.
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6789 Posts
October 13 2011 06:18 GMT
#8
happy 2k man :D
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Superiorwolf
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States5509 Posts
October 13 2011 07:06 GMT
#9
LOL WTF CHRIS HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Nice 2k post!!!!!!!!! :DDDDDDDDD
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flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
October 13 2011 16:53 GMT
#10
On October 13 2011 14:24 d3_crescentia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2011 14:21 Phelix wrote:
On October 13 2011 14:04 LuckyFool wrote:
EPIC 2k and 2001 post omg.

you make a good drunk cop btw, you vs flamewheel in one of the mafia games was one of the more memorable moments for me. :D

I agree. That was a wtf moment for me, and how you don't remember the answer yes or no.

so the story behind this was - in the first round, I pointed to FW with my partner (deadz) and basically looked at him as HotBid was giving the Y/N, and once the morning came he kicked my foot to prompt me to speak

on Day 2 I remembered to check but unfortunately I got Y/N confused, thinking "yes he's town" not "yes he's mafia" which was silly

Alcohol makes cops imbalanced =[
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
CaucasianAsian
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
Korea (South)11601 Posts
October 13 2011 18:09 GMT
#11
awesome 2k + 2k1 posts. Much love to you peter!
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Torenhire
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States11681 Posts
October 13 2011 18:40 GMT
#12
Woo Peter!

You are contribootan with maths and stuff, it's cuhrazy and makes my brains hurt.


I'm also glad I got to watch Chris dance again because of this post.
SirJolt: Well maybe if you weren't so big and stupid, it wouldn't have hit you.
Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
October 14 2011 00:49 GMT
#13
Congrats mate. I couldn't agree more.

Cheers
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