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FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10249 Posts
August 26 2011 00:36 GMT
#1
August 31th, 2011. The end of a well known team, beloved by many, will disband. Wemade FOX is currently one out of 2.5 (I say .5 because we don't know if MBC is FOR SURE to disband) teams that are disbanding soon. Brood War is currently in one of those gloomy days.

The signs are all around us. Can BW continue to live? Is SC2 really now the powerhouse? Signs are all around us. Disbanding teams, PR getting taken off the front page right bar of TL, people on threads making rude comments (from which i harshly responded and promptly get temp banned), and even small things like the polls being all SC2. I myself even got a horribly rude PM as shown here:

"From: Apollo_Shards [ 154 posts | Profile | Buddy | Report ]
Subject: lol
Date: 8/26/11 09:12
How does it feel to support a dead game while SC2 takes over everything?
Reply"

Yeah, BW might be dying, BUT WE AS BW FANS WONT GO! We will fight for our beloved game which so many think, is all but a few more years, if not months from coming to a complete stop. Do we give up the game that has all brought us here to this website? Do we hold up our hands and believe that this is all over? I know i wont. I continue to believe. Believe that BW will still continue strong, and that these disbandings are only a test of our strength, our hope in believing BW will live for more years to come.

Thank you for reading,
FlaShFTW

P.S. I'm quitting Starcraft due to school getting more serious (sophmore year of high school). But I'll make another blog for that when the time comes (September 7, 2011).

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Writer#1 KT and FlaSh Fanboy || Woo Jung Ho Never Forget || Teamliquid Political Decision Desk
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blubbdavid
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Switzerland2412 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-26 00:52:35
August 26 2011 00:49 GMT
#2
An era will come to the end. A legend, a once in a millenium event. And SC2 won't be there, when BW falls. Because SC2 has already died long before, before that happens!

BW, keep fighting!
What do you desire? Money? Glory? Power? Revenge? Or something that surpasses all other? Whatever you desire - that is here. Tower of God ¦¦Nutella, drink of the Gods
Loser777
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
1931 Posts
August 26 2011 01:03 GMT
#3
I don't fear the death of BW, I fear its replacement.
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Tatari
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States1179 Posts
August 26 2011 01:06 GMT
#4
That Apollo_Shards guy really needs to take the radish out of his ass. What's with the verbal attack when you just want to support a game you like? I personally enjoy watching BW far more than SC2 because I can tell how much effort it takes to play BW the way pros play it. The "pros" in SC2 make a lot of errors that seem like they can be easily avoided.

I've only played BW for a short time and didn't find a lot of motivation to play it (damn you inactive D level iCCup ), but I'd definitely be sad to see it go.
A fed jungler is no longer a jungler, but a terrorist.
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10249 Posts
August 26 2011 01:11 GMT
#5
On August 26 2011 10:06 Tatari wrote:
That Apollo_Shards guy really needs to take the radish out of his ass. What's with the verbal attack when you just want to support a game you like?

I was asking myself the same thing when i got it. I looked at it... refreshed... looked at it again... then shook my head in disgust. even worse, hes a fresh newbie low post count and everything...

and yeah, im gonna be so sad to see this game go. at least another 5 strong years please?
Writer#1 KT and FlaSh Fanboy || Woo Jung Ho Never Forget || Teamliquid Political Decision Desk
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jello_biafra
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United Kingdom6639 Posts
August 26 2011 01:13 GMT
#6
I think it's too early to give up hope, BW has had a hell of a run and it would be incredibly sad if it died now, PL finals had a lot of viewers so there is clearly still interest in it, I believe BW can continue its glorious existence.

Besides, I really don't think SC2 has what it takes to replace BW completely.
The road to hell is paved with good intentions | aka Probert[PaiN] @ iccup / godlikeparagon @ twitch | my BW stream: http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/jello_biafra
ava34
Profile Joined March 2010
United Kingdom153 Posts
August 26 2011 01:28 GMT
#7
While I think the disbanding of the teams and the shrinking (however slowly) of the BW scene is a tragedy for esports, you guys shouldn't be so harsh on SC2. Whoever sent that pm does have a "radish up his ass", but there's no neeed to simultaneously bash on SC2... is there?
CooDu
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia899 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-26 01:33:50
August 26 2011 01:33 GMT
#8
The point is it shouldn't be coming down to this BS of, "OH I WATCH SC2 AND PLAY SC2 SO IT MUST BE BETTER."

This is a community of Starcraft fans, whether it be BW or SC2. I love the former for different reasons than I love and enjoy the latter. The amount of inter-game hate like that fool's PM above is ridiculous.

It's a bit of a gloomy time for BW sure, but I will ride it out until whatever happens at the end. At this stage, I'm still enjoying Brood War as much as ever.
Just a simple guy, going wherever this journey takes me.
soujiro_
Profile Joined June 2010
Uruguay5195 Posts
August 26 2011 01:45 GMT
#9
trolls are trolls no point arguing with them
good luck in highschool
ace hwaiting!!
OpticalShot
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada6330 Posts
August 26 2011 02:26 GMT
#10
SCBW will be alive as long as we, the fans, believe in it.

SCBW forever, my comrade.
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