• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 07:17
CEST 13:17
KST 20:17
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Code S RO12 Preview: GuMiho, Bunny, SHIN, ByuN3The Memories We Share - Facing the Final(?) GSL21Code S RO12 Preview: Cure, Zoun, Solar, Creator4[ASL19] Finals Preview: Daunting Task30[ASL19] Ro4 Recap : The Peak15
Community News
Weekly Cups (May 19-25): Hindsight is 20/20?0DreamHack Dallas 2025 - Official Replay Pack8[BSL20] RO20 Group Stage2EWC 2025 Regional Qualifiers (May 28-June 1)17Weekly Cups (May 12-18): Clem sweeps WardiTV May3
StarCraft 2
General
The Memories We Share - Facing the Final(?) GSL How does the number of casters affect your enjoyment of esports? Code S RO12 Preview: GuMiho, Bunny, SHIN, ByuN Can anyone explain to me why u cant veto a matchup Karma, Domino Effect, and how it relates to SC2.
Tourneys
Last Chance Qualifiers for OlimoLeague 2024 Winter [GSL 2025] Code S:Season 2 - RO12 - Group B DreamHack Dallas 2025 EWC 2025 Regional Qualifiers (May 28-June 1) [GSL 2025] Code S:Season 2 - RO12 - Group A
Strategy
Simple Questions Simple Answers [G] PvT Cheese: 13 Gate Proxy Robo
Custom Maps
[UMS] Zillion Zerglings
External Content
Mutation # 475 Hard Target Mutation # 474 Futile Resistance Mutation # 473 Cold is the Void Mutation # 472 Dead Heat
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion BGH auto balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Will foreigners ever be able to challenge Koreans? Battle.net is not working Practice Partners (Official)
Tourneys
[ASL19] Grand Finals [BSL20] RO20 Group D - Sunday 20:00 CET [BSL20] RO20 Group B - Saturday 20:00 CET Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
I am doing this better than progamers do. [G] How to get started on ladder as a new Z player
Other Games
General Games
Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread Monster Hunter Wilds Beyond All Reason Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread
Dota 2
lawless labs myosarm sarm yk-11 Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
LiquidLegends to reintegrate into TL.net
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread TL Mafia Plays: Diplomacy TL Mafia: Generative Agents Showdown Survivor II: The Amazon
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine US Politics Mega-thread All you football fans (soccer)! European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread NHL Playoffs 2024 Formula 1 Discussion NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Cleaning My Mechanical Keyboard How to clean a TTe Thermaltake keyboard?
TL Community
The Automated Ban List TL.net Ten Commandments
Blogs
Need Your Help/Advice
Glider
Trip to the Zoo
micronesia
Yes Sir! How Commanding Impr…
TrAiDoS
Poker
Nebuchad
Info SLEgma_12
SLEgma_12
SECOND COMMING
XenOsky
WombaT’s Old BW Terran Theme …
WombaT
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 13891 users

Never Surrender

Blogs > FlaShFTW
Post a Reply
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10106 Posts
August 26 2011 00:36 GMT
#1
August 31th, 2011. The end of a well known team, beloved by many, will disband. Wemade FOX is currently one out of 2.5 (I say .5 because we don't know if MBC is FOR SURE to disband) teams that are disbanding soon. Brood War is currently in one of those gloomy days.

The signs are all around us. Can BW continue to live? Is SC2 really now the powerhouse? Signs are all around us. Disbanding teams, PR getting taken off the front page right bar of TL, people on threads making rude comments (from which i harshly responded and promptly get temp banned), and even small things like the polls being all SC2. I myself even got a horribly rude PM as shown here:

"From: Apollo_Shards [ 154 posts | Profile | Buddy | Report ]
Subject: lol
Date: 8/26/11 09:12
How does it feel to support a dead game while SC2 takes over everything?
Reply"

Yeah, BW might be dying, BUT WE AS BW FANS WONT GO! We will fight for our beloved game which so many think, is all but a few more years, if not months from coming to a complete stop. Do we give up the game that has all brought us here to this website? Do we hold up our hands and believe that this is all over? I know i wont. I continue to believe. Believe that BW will still continue strong, and that these disbandings are only a test of our strength, our hope in believing BW will live for more years to come.

Thank you for reading,
FlaShFTW

P.S. I'm quitting Starcraft due to school getting more serious (sophmore year of high school). But I'll make another blog for that when the time comes (September 7, 2011).

***
Writer#1 KT and FlaSh Fanboy || Woo Jung Ho Never Forget || Teamliquid Political Decision Desk
TL+ Member
blubbdavid
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Switzerland2412 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-26 00:52:35
August 26 2011 00:49 GMT
#2
An era will come to the end. A legend, a once in a millenium event. And SC2 won't be there, when BW falls. Because SC2 has already died long before, before that happens!

BW, keep fighting!
What do you desire? Money? Glory? Power? Revenge? Or something that surpasses all other? Whatever you desire - that is here. Tower of God ¦¦Nutella, drink of the Gods
Loser777
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
1931 Posts
August 26 2011 01:03 GMT
#3
I don't fear the death of BW, I fear its replacement.
6581
Tatari
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States1179 Posts
August 26 2011 01:06 GMT
#4
That Apollo_Shards guy really needs to take the radish out of his ass. What's with the verbal attack when you just want to support a game you like? I personally enjoy watching BW far more than SC2 because I can tell how much effort it takes to play BW the way pros play it. The "pros" in SC2 make a lot of errors that seem like they can be easily avoided.

I've only played BW for a short time and didn't find a lot of motivation to play it (damn you inactive D level iCCup ), but I'd definitely be sad to see it go.
A fed jungler is no longer a jungler, but a terrorist.
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10106 Posts
August 26 2011 01:11 GMT
#5
On August 26 2011 10:06 Tatari wrote:
That Apollo_Shards guy really needs to take the radish out of his ass. What's with the verbal attack when you just want to support a game you like?

I was asking myself the same thing when i got it. I looked at it... refreshed... looked at it again... then shook my head in disgust. even worse, hes a fresh newbie low post count and everything...

and yeah, im gonna be so sad to see this game go. at least another 5 strong years please?
Writer#1 KT and FlaSh Fanboy || Woo Jung Ho Never Forget || Teamliquid Political Decision Desk
TL+ Member
jello_biafra
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United Kingdom6634 Posts
August 26 2011 01:13 GMT
#6
I think it's too early to give up hope, BW has had a hell of a run and it would be incredibly sad if it died now, PL finals had a lot of viewers so there is clearly still interest in it, I believe BW can continue its glorious existence.

Besides, I really don't think SC2 has what it takes to replace BW completely.
The road to hell is paved with good intentions | aka Probert[PaiN] @ iccup / godlikeparagon @ twitch | my BW stream: http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/jello_biafra
ava34
Profile Joined March 2010
United Kingdom153 Posts
August 26 2011 01:28 GMT
#7
While I think the disbanding of the teams and the shrinking (however slowly) of the BW scene is a tragedy for esports, you guys shouldn't be so harsh on SC2. Whoever sent that pm does have a "radish up his ass", but there's no neeed to simultaneously bash on SC2... is there?
CooDu
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia899 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-26 01:33:50
August 26 2011 01:33 GMT
#8
The point is it shouldn't be coming down to this BS of, "OH I WATCH SC2 AND PLAY SC2 SO IT MUST BE BETTER."

This is a community of Starcraft fans, whether it be BW or SC2. I love the former for different reasons than I love and enjoy the latter. The amount of inter-game hate like that fool's PM above is ridiculous.

It's a bit of a gloomy time for BW sure, but I will ride it out until whatever happens at the end. At this stage, I'm still enjoying Brood War as much as ever.
Just a simple guy, going wherever this journey takes me.
soujiro_
Profile Joined June 2010
Uruguay5195 Posts
August 26 2011 01:45 GMT
#9
trolls are trolls no point arguing with them
good luck in highschool
ace hwaiting!!
OpticalShot
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada6330 Posts
August 26 2011 02:26 GMT
#10
SCBW will be alive as long as we, the fans, believe in it.

SCBW forever, my comrade.
[TLMS] REBOOT
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Road to EWC
10:00
Asia Closed Qualifiers
RotterdaM764
3DClanTV 96
Liquipedia
Road to EWC
09:00
Korea Open Qualifiers #1
CranKy Ducklings132
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RotterdaM 764
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 11374
Calm 9884
Rain 7130
Bisu 4380
Shuttle 2369
GuemChi 461
Mini 257
EffOrt 170
Killer 100
ToSsGirL 90
[ Show more ]
ZerO 88
Aegong 56
Rush 48
Mind 46
NaDa 28
sSak 26
Icarus 21
GoRush 17
SilentControl 12
Shinee 12
Noble 12
Barracks 11
IntoTheRainbow 11
ajuk12(nOOB) 10
Hm[arnc] 9
Movie 7
Stork 2
Dota 2
Dendi2821
XcaliburYe724
PGG 255
Fuzer 190
Counter-Strike
olofmeister2621
allub171
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor175
Other Games
Happy551
XBOCT541
B2W.Neo464
crisheroes236
XaKoH 216
DeMusliM213
Mew2King123
KnowMe53
ArmadaUGS38
QueenE29
ZerO(Twitch)9
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick677
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 65
• IndyKCrew
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• sooper7s
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• RaNgeD 13
• Rasowy 6
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV754
• lizZardDota2328
League of Legends
• Stunt1002
Upcoming Events
Road to EWC
10h 43m
Road to EWC
21h 43m
Road to EWC
1d 4h
BSL Season 20
1d 6h
Sziky vs Razz
Sziky vs StRyKeR
Sziky vs DragOn
Sziky vs Tech
Razz vs StRyKeR
Razz vs DragOn
Razz vs Tech
DragOn vs Tech
Online Event
1d 16h
Clem vs ShoWTimE
herO vs MaxPax
Road to EWC
1d 21h
BSL Season 20
2 days
Bonyth vs Doodle
Bonyth vs izu
Bonyth vs MadiNho
Bonyth vs TerrOr
MadiNho vs TerrOr
Doodle vs izu
Doodle vs MadiNho
Doodle vs TerrOr
Replay Cast
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
[ Show More ]
The PondCast
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-05-28
DreamHack Dallas 2025
Calamity Stars S2

Ongoing

JPL Season 2
BSL Season 20
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 2
NPSL S3
Rose Open S1
CSL Season 17: Qualifier 1
2025 GSL S2
Heroes 10 EU
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025
PGL Astana 2025
Asian Champions League '25
ECL Season 49: Europe
BLAST Rivals Spring 2025
MESA Nomadic Masters
CCT Season 2 Global Finals
IEM Melbourne 2025
YaLLa Compass Qatar 2025
PGL Bucharest 2025
BLAST Open Spring 2025

Upcoming

CSL Season 17: Qualifier 2
CSL 17: 2025 SUMMER
Copa Latinoamericana 4
CSLPRO Last Chance 2025
CSLAN 2025
K-Championship
SEL Season 2 Championship
Esports World Cup 2025
HSC XXVII
Championship of Russia 2025
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.