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ExceeD_DreaM
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada500 Posts
July 12 2011 21:24 GMT
#21
The OP is correct in saying that BW pro scene will phase out.

NOT SOON ENOUGH.

Blizz and Kespa have a 2-3 yr deal, and BW is utterly WAY more popular than SC2 is in Korea.
There are more than usual FOREIGN tournaments getting posted on TL and iccup nowadays. I certainly don't see this as dying.

Yes it is an old game and it will die sooner or later, but you see that BW is more fun than ever, with Bisu/JD/Flash triangle leading the way, showcasing ever more amazing skill and talent that SC2 can never harness.

I believe SC2 was more of a threat to BW in beginning stages. BW scene has actually calmed down more now and is more stable with strong fanbase and support. so OP, your opinion is too early of a calling.
ScouraE
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada28 Posts
July 12 2011 22:12 GMT
#22
WEll i agree to part of what you said but there where some parts that were, uh...well, some people will be seriously offended by it.
First of all, BW was a great game, no doubt about it. I do agree that it is an art. It is a game that should be remembered by everyone as a major part of esports and gaming history. But simply saying SC2 is "inferior" and that it killed two games and that most importantly BW knowledge will be forever lost is kind of pessimistic. (Did i spell that word wrong?)
BW and WC3 knowledge aren't completely lost, the skills such as decision making and high APM are kept and passed onto SC2. Recall the beginning days of BW when people had almost no experience about RTS and never use hotkeys to play and only use one hand, now look at the beginning days of SC2, people looked really damn good because they had previous knowledge of RTS from BW and WC3. And look at day[9] daily, i'm pretty sure most of his replay analyzing skills come from his experiences of BW.
Also i think the simpler mechanics can help the game in the future when there would be more epic micro wars and multi-front attacks because now there's extra APM to do that, instead of spending this APM to move works to minerals.
And for the 3D thing, well, Blizzard is a business and it needs people to buy the game. And when the general public go buy a game, they don't look at it and go "Hmmm, this game looks very complex and indepth with an extremely high skill cap, i should buy it." NO, they whould just buy the game that looks good. Imagin if SC1 was to be delayed for 13 years and was to be released now, no one would buy it, and would then go and see if the next MW rip-off is on sale yet.

in the end, it is sad that BW have to and will evantually disappear in the esports world, but the skill of BW has been passed on to SC2, and the memory of BW will never disappear and will always remain as part of our esports and gaming history.Also SC2 is not bad, it just needs more innovation and less balancing talks.
Wirting is a process not a product
Amnesia
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States3818 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-13 02:56:10
July 13 2011 02:52 GMT
#23
On July 13 2011 05:16 cava wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2011 04:50 jello_biafra wrote:
The BW scene is expanding at the moment, not dying...


You are kidding yourself if you actually believe that.

Let me guess. You don't even follow the BW scene.

rofl.

edit: Wow you registered in 2002. Shame on you.

On July 13 2011 04:42 TylerThaCreator wrote:
lol this blog is so one-sided and loaded. just another opinion of an old-school gamer who can't adjust to changing times.


imo just because someone decides not to move on it does not mean he can't adjust to changing times...

Just because the majority does it so should I? I personally hate SC2 (the game to me just doesn't appeal) so why should I change? I am content with BW and that is all that matters.
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