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matjlav
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany2435 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-14 23:13:51
June 14 2011 23:01 GMT
#21
Ummm, the reason why people don't know that is because electronic music is a niche music style and not everyone knows much about it? Could you honestly not figure that out or was your first question rhetorical?

And why does it make you mad? It doesn't mean that they're stupid or anything, just that they haven't listened to much electronic music. People don't pop out of the womb knowing every single detail about the classifications of music in every genre. Indeed, I didn't know about any of those genres that you listed off in the OP until reading this thread.

Imagine if I called anyone who doesn't know the difference between classical, romantic, baroque, and modernist music a "little shit." Wouldn't that be really dickish? It is really dickish.

tl;dr version: Getting mad at someone for not knowing a random set of facts that you do is really, really dumb. Instead of getting pissed at people for being uneducated about your music, be friendly and educate them!
matjlav
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany2435 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-14 23:10:03
June 14 2011 23:09 GMT
#22
On June 15 2011 07:18 FeiLing wrote:
Everything electronic-ish has been called Techno by the masses since music exists. Same masses that are super religious, spend half of their income on sms, play farmville and/or buy their computers in a supermarket/discounter. Who cares for what these people dare to speak out loud? Forget about it and move on. Protip: Let every idiot that crosses your way raise your inner mood (knowing that he's gonna pay for his stupidity sooner or later).


Lolololol wtf

Everyone who doesn't know the difference between random genres in your niche music scene must be some totally uneducated hick?

I never knew people could be this judgmental of everyone outside of their music sphere, haha. Is prejudice like this common among electronic music fans?
FeiLing
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany428 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-15 00:28:34
June 15 2011 00:23 GMT
#23
Nobody cares if the people can't tell the genres apart. If they'd call it electronic music, that is fine. Why do they call everything techno instead? That's like someone watching these colors (which are obviously all blue tones):
[image loading]
And now for some reason he doesn't say these are blue colors, instead he says all of these are ultramarine, because that is the only name of a blue color he knows. Nobody cares that he doesn't know that one of them is actually called azure, the other teal or indigo or whatever. Just call it blue if you don't know exactly. Just call it electronic music if you don't know exactly.

PS: And yeah, everyone that calls any electronic music techno is very likely to be a person I won't befriend. Not saying they are stupid. I'd rather say they are normal. Sounds kinda sad, right? Your answer now should be "yes, that's very sad (poor you)".
Loser777
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
1931 Posts
June 15 2011 00:37 GMT
#24
We might as well argue over people who refer to chiptunes as 8-bit music... electronic music is often so difficult to classify that instead of getting angry over people who refer to electronic music collectively as techno--use it as an indicator that they obviously know very little about electronic music.
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duBstar
Profile Joined July 2010
United States57 Posts
June 15 2011 00:38 GMT
#25
Techno is electronic. Techno is a subgenre of electronic music.

Why it makes you mad I do not know. Do not be so pretentious and hipster? That would be good.
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JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
June 15 2011 01:08 GMT
#26
http://techno.org/electronic-music-guide/

Oh god, why doesn't everyone know every single one of those categories??

You can't be serious.
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Lebesgue
Profile Joined October 2008
4542 Posts
June 15 2011 03:24 GMT
#27
On June 15 2011 10:08 JeeJee wrote:
http://techno.org/electronic-music-guide/

Oh god, why doesn't everyone know every single one of those categories??

You can't be serious.


No, the question is "why does anyone refer to electronic music by one of its sub-genres?". Just call it electronic music and that's fine. You don't have to be able to distinguish melodic trance from uplifting trance, or electro house from deep house..


matjlav
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany2435 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-15 03:26:59
June 15 2011 03:24 GMT
#28
On June 15 2011 09:23 FeiLing wrote:
Nobody cares if the people can't tell the genres apart. If they'd call it electronic music, that is fine. Why do they call everything techno instead? That's like someone watching these colors (which are obviously all blue tones):
[image loading]
And now for some reason he doesn't say these are blue colors, instead he says all of these are ultramarine, because that is the only name of a blue color he knows. Nobody cares that he doesn't know that one of them is actually called azure, the other teal or indigo or whatever. Just call it blue if you don't know exactly. Just call it electronic music if you don't know exactly.

PS: And yeah, everyone that calls any electronic music techno is very likely to be a person I won't befriend. Not saying they are stupid. I'd rather say they are normal. Sounds kinda sad, right? Your answer now should be "yes, that's very sad (poor you)".


Okay, well, now I know. See how easy that was? I'd never heard anything about "techno" being a subgenre of "electronic" until now, and I'd never really thought about the difference. Why does that make me the sort of person you wouldn't befriend? Just because I don't have the same taste in music as you, and therefore have never been exposed to this taxonomy system?
JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
June 15 2011 03:44 GMT
#29
On June 15 2011 12:24 Lebesgue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2011 10:08 JeeJee wrote:
http://techno.org/electronic-music-guide/

Oh god, why doesn't everyone know every single one of those categories??

You can't be serious.


No, the question is "why does anyone refer to electronic music by one of its sub-genres?". Just call it electronic music and that's fine. You don't have to be able to distinguish melodic trance from uplifting trance, or electro house from deep house..




Just cause it's known like that .. same way when someone asks for a kleenex they don't necessarily mean kleenex, but just any facial tissue.

What an odd thing to get mad about
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drop271
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
New Zealand286 Posts
June 15 2011 03:47 GMT
#30
On June 15 2011 07:47 DivinO wrote:
My favorite band is Lady Gaga? Am I doing it right?



I believe "Dubstep? I love that band!" is the correct response
endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
June 15 2011 06:43 GMT
#31
Yeah, it's because they don't know anything about electronic music. I can totally understand that, my friends who listen to "hard rock", are always pissed because I can't make the difference between heavy metal, speed metal, death metal, or whatever.

But I know exactly what you mean, I'm always "fuck you dude trip-hop is not techno".
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Diglett
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
600 Posts
June 15 2011 06:57 GMT
#32
On June 15 2011 12:24 matjlav wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2011 09:23 FeiLing wrote:
Nobody cares if the people can't tell the genres apart. If they'd call it electronic music, that is fine. Why do they call everything techno instead? That's like someone watching these colors (which are obviously all blue tones):
[image loading]
And now for some reason he doesn't say these are blue colors, instead he says all of these are ultramarine, because that is the only name of a blue color he knows. Nobody cares that he doesn't know that one of them is actually called azure, the other teal or indigo or whatever. Just call it blue if you don't know exactly. Just call it electronic music if you don't know exactly.

PS: And yeah, everyone that calls any electronic music techno is very likely to be a person I won't befriend. Not saying they are stupid. I'd rather say they are normal. Sounds kinda sad, right? Your answer now should be "yes, that's very sad (poor you)".


Okay, well, now I know. See how easy that was? I'd never heard anything about "techno" being a subgenre of "electronic" until now, and I'd never really thought about the difference. Why does that make me the sort of person you wouldn't befriend? Just because I don't have the same taste in music as you, and therefore have never been exposed to this taxonomy system?


just wondering why you learned to call it as techno and not electronic music. were you misinformed?

i have also experienced ppl calling the music i listen to techno when i have never listened to it before. it's like calling someone saying "women belong in the kitchen and are too stupid for anything else" a racist. where do ppl learn this?
SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10305 Posts
June 15 2011 10:42 GMT
#33
On June 15 2011 10:08 JeeJee wrote:
http://techno.org/electronic-music-guide/

Oh god, why doesn't everyone know every single one of those categories??

You can't be serious.


wow that link is fucking cool, thanks! will show this to people whenever discussion of eletronic music is on <3
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SirJolt
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
the Dagon Knight4012 Posts
June 15 2011 10:55 GMT
#34
As much as I hate it, you can get away with pretty much everything if you just refer to everything as dubstep...

House? Dubstep
Electro? Dubstep
Ambient electronic? Dubstep

"Aww yeah man, I totally feel that dubstep vibe!"
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zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15365 Posts
June 15 2011 13:55 GMT
#35
On June 15 2011 19:42 SmoKim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2011 10:08 JeeJee wrote:
http://techno.org/electronic-music-guide/

Oh god, why doesn't everyone know every single one of those categories??

You can't be serious.


wow that link is fucking cool, thanks! will show this to people whenever discussion of eletronic music is on <3

Ha just clicked a bit through it. I'd be careful it seems very opinionated and not too informed on the Euro side of styles.
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Bereft
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1007 Posts
June 15 2011 14:03 GMT
#36
On June 15 2011 22:55 zatic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2011 19:42 SmoKim wrote:
On June 15 2011 10:08 JeeJee wrote:
http://techno.org/electronic-music-guide/

Oh god, why doesn't everyone know every single one of those categories??

You can't be serious.


wow that link is fucking cool, thanks! will show this to people whenever discussion of eletronic music is on <3

Ha just clicked a bit through it. I'd be careful it seems very opinionated and not too informed on the Euro side of styles.

agreed, seems mostly like one's persons interpretation and opinions. not very technical in terms of describing the different styles, instead "this is the gritty side of electronic music" "this is the soulful side" "this is a great example of how x genre is playful," etc.
matjlav
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany2435 Posts
June 15 2011 14:36 GMT
#37
On June 15 2011 15:57 Diglett wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2011 12:24 matjlav wrote:
On June 15 2011 09:23 FeiLing wrote:
Nobody cares if the people can't tell the genres apart. If they'd call it electronic music, that is fine. Why do they call everything techno instead? That's like someone watching these colors (which are obviously all blue tones):
[image loading]
And now for some reason he doesn't say these are blue colors, instead he says all of these are ultramarine, because that is the only name of a blue color he knows. Nobody cares that he doesn't know that one of them is actually called azure, the other teal or indigo or whatever. Just call it blue if you don't know exactly. Just call it electronic music if you don't know exactly.

PS: And yeah, everyone that calls any electronic music techno is very likely to be a person I won't befriend. Not saying they are stupid. I'd rather say they are normal. Sounds kinda sad, right? Your answer now should be "yes, that's very sad (poor you)".


Okay, well, now I know. See how easy that was? I'd never heard anything about "techno" being a subgenre of "electronic" until now, and I'd never really thought about the difference. Why does that make me the sort of person you wouldn't befriend? Just because I don't have the same taste in music as you, and therefore have never been exposed to this taxonomy system?


just wondering why you learned to call it as techno and not electronic music. were you misinformed?

i have also experienced ppl calling the music i listen to techno when i have never listened to it before. it's like calling someone saying "women belong in the kitchen and are too stupid for anything else" a racist. where do ppl learn this?


Because I've never really directly been told about the culture, and I usually hear people calling all electronic music "techno." So I pick up the same habit. It's how language works, dude. I never bothered checking if it was correct because I never really developed any sort of interest in the scene.
misclick
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
Korea (South)155 Posts
June 16 2011 15:19 GMT
#38
i had this pet peeve for the longest time being pretty much the only one out of my group of friends that actually listened to electronic. but, i've realized that its more annoying to hear "video game music" "computer music" or just "noise." techno doesn't bother me so much anymore... though everyone has the mortal kombat theme song in mind when they say it.
we have everything under control
bonifaceviii
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2890 Posts
June 16 2011 16:13 GMT
#39
I call it bleeps and bloops
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