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oBlade
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States5672 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-04 16:14:07
June 04 2011 16:11 GMT
#1
What do you know about sAviOr and Flash? I'll tell about what I know. This isn't a big article, just a dusty piece of history. Mostly VODs.

Their early encounters were sparse. A quick defeat in the Daum OSL. Flash lost basically to zerglings, which is not something to be ashamed of. NaDa has lost to YellOw's zerglings before, and Boxer as well. More recently, Flash has lost to Jaedong's zerglings quite rapidly in the last BW WCG Korea. So losing to sAviOr in 2007; well, there's always another day.



And so Flash got a chance to show his own set of skills in their infamous battle on Baekmagoji. Flash's mechanic took control of the game as he still does today. His economy-backed tanks are an inevitable force of the exploded hydralisk, lurker, ultralisk, and any other alien carcasses.

I will try to produce an audio Tasteless quote from memory: "but I also believe sAviOr violently misplayed that game." This might be true, but partly because the solution wasn't really understood. Flash's style intersected with sAviOr's at strange places. The traps that he might set against lesser Terrans had no place in this game. Tank splash cannot be befuddled by expert maneuvering or dark swarms.



Around the time sAviOr was playing probably his last respectable games, his 9 win streak at the beginning of 2009, this article appeared reporting that sAviOr and Flash had encountered each other anonymously on iCCup and played apparently epic games on Colo and Andromeda. Flash thought he was playing Jaedong, sAviOr thought he was playing Sea or Flash. Flash lost.

After that they had their silly one-sided game in PL all-stars where Flash went one base and used some nukes. But due to a BM overlord mindgame, Flash nuked part of his own army. Also, he lost a ghost to some drones. While it's true neither probably took it seriously, I think Flash expected his strategy to do a little better than it did. Later they met twice in late 2009 PL rounds, but the games were unremarkable and sAviOr seemed unable to keep up. I don't recommend doing this because it puts suspicion on lots of games, but I think the games sAviOr went crazy zerg on - if any games were thrown, it would be these (he did it on FS vs Flash and on HBR vs Sea, losing both).

So it seems like we got robbed of a potential brilliant encounter. Recently I noticed something called MBC Skins All-Star in TLPD, probably only recently TLPD-ized. I also read its LR threads. It's like OGN revenge van, but all Bo7s. go.go and 910 (7-0. I sympathize, who on earth is 910 and what is he doing in an all-star league?). Xellos and Reach. Anytime and Bisu. Free and Sea. Hwasin and stork. sAviOr and Sea. sAviOr and Flash. sAviOr and Flash played a Bo7 in 2008. *catches breath*

My logical induction tells me that if I didn't know about this, other people might also be in the dark. This is an intolerable situation. Prizes started at 100k won ($100) for the first game and got incremented 100k every game except the last, which is 900k won. 3 game streaks are 500k; 5 game, 1000k, 7 game, 2000k. Bo7 all games played (i.e., 7-0 possible).

Original Korean commentary was on Jon747. I looked elsewhere and only found them on youku (wfbrood). The VODs are below. You can also find them in English commentary on Youtube.

Set 1, Blue Storm
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMjIwODQ4NDQ=.html
Set 2, Rush Hour 3
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMjIwODU4ODg=.html
Set 3, Sin Peaks of Baekdu
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMjIwODg4NjA=.html
Set 4, Un'Goro Crater
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMjIwOTEyNDQ=.html
Set 5, Arcadia 2
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMjIwOTM3MTI=.html
Set 6, Tau Cross
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMjIwOTYxNTI=.html
Set 7, Loki II
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMjIwOTgxODA=.html

Here was the LR, you can't* find results but I don't recommend looking at them when you can watch the VODs. Even if you just watch 1 game a day for a week.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=68478
*edit: you can* find results. But really, don't look.

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"I read it. You know how to read, you ignorant fuck?" - Andy Dufresne
Legatus Lanius
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
2135 Posts
June 04 2011 16:22 GMT
#2
thanks man, im definitely gonna check this out! i hope youku doesnt load slow tonight :C
"He's the Triple H of Brood War." - Ribbon on Flash | "He's more like the John Cena of Brood War." - Aus)MaCrO on Flash
J1.au
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Australia3596 Posts
June 04 2011 17:31 GMT
#3
I had never watched these games before, thanks for linking them.

Good blog, 5/5!
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
June 04 2011 18:39 GMT
#4
I remember these games. + Show Spoiler +
God, the result had me fucking pumped. sAviOr was shitting the bed at this point and Flash was...well, Flash. The Rush Hour game is fucking awesome
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
Legatus Lanius
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
2135 Posts
June 05 2011 07:07 GMT
#5
fucking youku is fucking me over, cant seem to watch the last set >.>
"He's the Triple H of Brood War." - Ribbon on Flash | "He's more like the John Cena of Brood War." - Aus)MaCrO on Flash
oBlade
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States5672 Posts
June 05 2011 07:18 GMT
#6
It's working over here. http://www.youtube.com/user/BladeOfAiur has it in English commentary if you want to watch it that way.
"I read it. You know how to read, you ignorant fuck?" - Andy Dufresne
Legatus Lanius
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
2135 Posts
June 05 2011 07:32 GMT
#7
thanks but ill just wait it out on youku, i prefer the korean commentary
"He's the Triple H of Brood War." - Ribbon on Flash | "He's more like the John Cena of Brood War." - Aus)MaCrO on Flash
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