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[Spoilers]GSL winner's response on current balance

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ooni
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Australia1498 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-02 13:55:30
October 02 2010 13:11 GMT
#1
From an interview right after the match

Interviewer: In a previous interview, you have said Zerg needs a buff, as the winner (of GSL) how do you feel about it now?

Cool: I think it's kind of much to say these kind of things after winning but I had difficulties. I am personally confident against Terran so I say (TvZ) is playable but against a Protoss I think it's really difficult.
I think the reason I made it to the final was because I had a lot of Terran opponents.

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-First I want to congratulate on your win. This is your first win, could you tell us how you are feeling?
I have never thought I would win. I just practiced like I always do. Since today's final was on a large stage so I enjoyed it. I am happy I won.

-You have joined a team just before the league (GSL), did that help you in anyway?
I think I was well nourished. *laughs* Usually I get stressed easily so to get rid of the stress I eat a lot. <Think implying the team gave him a lot to eat>

-I heard you prepared a special strategy for Desert Oasis
I tried to use Hydralisks. Because Hopetorture was in a prepared state and tried drop consistently, overall, things did not go my way during the game

-Why do you think you lost the 4th match?
I could not stop my opponent's map control. Also I personally dislike large maps so I think it coincided with an unfavorable condition.

-In a previous interview, you have said Zerg needs a buff, as the winner (of GSL) how do you feel about it now?
I think it's bit too much to say these kind of things after winning but I had difficulties.
I am personally confident against Terran so I say (TvZ) is playable but against a Protoss I think it's really difficult.
I think the reason I made it to the final was because I had a lot of Terran opponents

-In 1st, 2nd and 3rd matches (I) thought it was hard to take a fast expasion but you got those expansions with ease (confidently). Was that a hidden strategy?
To be honest I didn't specifically prepare for that strategy.
I just played like I would have done in my practice.
(I have) seen a lot of expansion (strategies) <not 100% sure he means specifically Hopetorture's expansion strategies> so I knew (my) strategy <I'm assuming they are talking about hatch before pool> was already possible.
Even if he was to expand and I take some economic loss, I still felt (thought) I could win. If HopeTorture (the Terran) went fast Marines, I was even more certain I would win.


Source: GSL S1 우승자 김원기와의 일문일답


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ReketSomething
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6012 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-02 13:15:34
October 02 2010 13:15 GMT
#2
Interesting. Is there a translation of the rest of the interview?

It seems Cool is still asking for buffs ^^

Edit: I just read your edit ^^
Jaedong :3
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
October 02 2010 13:18 GMT
#3
On October 02 2010 22:15 ReketSomething wrote:
Interesting. Is there a translation of the rest of the interview?

It seems Cool is still asking for buffs ^^

Edit: I just read your edit ^^

Why wouldnt he? Anything to make his job easier :D

Pretty sure any player wouldnt mind moar buffs oO.
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ooni
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Australia1498 Posts
October 02 2010 13:47 GMT
#4
Yeah translated the full interview.
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Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
October 02 2010 14:41 GMT
#5
Fruitdealer is a statistical anomaly =P
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hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
October 02 2010 15:42 GMT
#6
On October 02 2010 23:41 Djzapz wrote:
Fruitdealer is a statistical anomaly =P

Fruitdealer is the future of zerg.
tianGO
Profile Joined August 2010
Argentina591 Posts
October 02 2010 16:11 GMT
#7
Thank you very much for the translation.
"He who controls the present, controls the past. He who controls the past, controls the future."
Tabbris
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Bangladesh2839 Posts
October 02 2010 16:58 GMT
#8
What......TvZ is the better matchup?
TekKpriest
Profile Joined March 2010
308 Posts
October 02 2010 17:19 GMT
#9
On October 03 2010 01:58 Tabbris wrote:
What......TvZ is the better matchup?


yep,

zvp is way harder vs any decent protoss.

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Logo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
October 02 2010 17:43 GMT
#10
Given his style of play I can especially see how this is true.

One of the problems of ZvP is Zerg's 'tricks' don't work nearly as well. It's hard to backstab because of warp-in and how well zealots do vs lings, it's hard to use infestors in any powerful way, and it's hard to invest in extra things like drop, nydus, or additional expansions since it's so difficult and expensive to go toe to toe with a Protoss as is. On top of that Protoss offer the least reward for flanking well due to FF, colossi being able to walk over units, blink and charge.
Logo
Entropic
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2837 Posts
October 02 2010 18:18 GMT
#11
On October 03 2010 02:43 Logo wrote:
Given his style of play I can especially see how this is true.

One of the problems of ZvP is Zerg's 'tricks' don't work nearly as well. It's hard to backstab because of warp-in and how well zealots do vs lings, it's hard to use infestors in any powerful way, and it's hard to invest in extra things like drop, nydus, or additional expansions since it's so difficult and expensive to go toe to toe with a Protoss as is. On top of that Protoss offer the least reward for flanking well due to FF, colossi being able to walk over units, blink and charge.


It's also hard to maintain creep spread in ZvP because of observers (sure Terran has Raven but the terran army is much more immobile than the protoss ball ie. the terran needs to siege up his tanks).
emc
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3088 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-03 04:10:31
October 03 2010 04:06 GMT
#12
I agree with cool, ZvT is much easier than ZvP or even ZvZ. There just doesn't seem to be as many counters against protoss as there are against terran, banelings and lings aren't as effective against marines compared to zealots and blink and warp in can shut down muta harass very easily.
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Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
October 03 2010 04:07 GMT
#13
akin to HEROO PLOTOSSUUU
BasementCat
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada155 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-03 07:08:08
October 03 2010 07:04 GMT
#14
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