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qzmpwxno
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Papua New Guinea152 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-10 03:46:05
September 10 2010 03:43 GMT
#1
Hello guys, so I'm a longtime BW player, and I've played the last 3 seasons of iccup, with max rank around D ~1500 and average apm ~80 tho I could go as high as 120 (big battles, etc.) I wasn't a very good player, but I had most of the basic stuff down, like macro/micro, hotkeys, mechanics, strategy, building placement, a few general build orders but mostly just the correct mentality for the different match ups.

NOW. I'm basically giving up BW at this point, not because I realized I suck (LOL, it's true) but because it's just not fun for me anymore. Basically even if my strategy and game plan are decent, I'll lose to someone who is just spamming hotkeys and has higher apm than me. That got tiring after a while, but also the fact is that BW has basically been solved at the highest competitive level. Flash is dominating so hard that I'm pretty much compelled to believe that he solved the game, sure he's going to suffer from fluke losses now and then but he's more or less SOLVED BW. On top of that his style puts me to sleep and I can honestly say I'd rather watch paint dry than watch one of Flash's games.

So, now that I'm more interested in SC2, I fear an even greater challenge awaits me. I know that my previous experience with BW should be beneficial to picking up SC2 but I really have no idea about the new units, new buildings, new abilities, and other new stuff that's completely different from BW.

I was wondering if I should start with Liquipedia and basically get myself familiarized with the new units and buildings and stuff, or if it would be better to play some games first and try to figure some stuff out on my own (even if that means getting stomped in my first 50 games LOL).

So anything like that, for a SC2 newbie like me, would help. Thx every1

Stand on one block but own the whole street~
Exteray
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States1094 Posts
September 10 2010 03:55 GMT
#2
Wait for OSL Finals and u'll change what you said about Flash solving the SC:BW
Azerbaijan
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States660 Posts
September 10 2010 03:57 GMT
#3
Just some thing I did to facilitate switching to Sc2 from broodwar:

Spend some time playing against AI just to familiarize myself with the tech trees and unit abilities.

Assuming you haven't picked a race I suggest you ladder as random for a while until you find what race you enjoy the most or are most comfortable with.

Visit the Sc2 replays thread a lot; skim through and pick out top players and watch all the reps you can find of them. LINK

Avoid getting frustrated. treat your losses as opportunities to learn and improve by watching the replays. Take a break if you do get frustrated, no point in playing if you aren't in the mood to enjoy it.

Watch Day9 Dailies =D LINK
Nightmarjoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States3360 Posts
September 10 2010 04:00 GMT
#4
Copy replays, you come to understand what you're copying as you do it over and over.
aka Lyra; My favourites: July, Stork, Draco, MistrZZZ, TheStc, LastShadow - www.broodwarmaps.net - for all your mapping needs; check my stream: high masters mech terran: twitch.tv/lyrathegreat
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