• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 11:41
CET 17:41
KST 01:41
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Finals Preview: Sweet Victory!12[ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror6[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5
Community News
Dark completes military service, returns to SC29[BSL23] RO16 Group Stage19Weekly Cups (Nov 2-8): herO back on top?2Weekly Cups (Oct 26 - Nov 1): MaxPax, herO, Solar win0Weekly Cups (October 19-25): Clem triples first in 5.0.175
StarCraft 2
General
Dark completes military service, returns to SC2 Greetings.. No more SC2 streamers on team liquid? Serral's getting trashed by New Catsle's Mind Weekly Cups (Nov 2-8): herO back on top?
Tourneys
Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) Dark returns! GSL CK #7 4v4 Team Battle (Nov 19) soO & FanTaSy return! SC2 Kevin Scrim 4v4 (Nov 16) RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22 Tasteless Time Warp: SC Evo Showmatch (May 25)
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
[G] How to playtest arcade maps Starcraft 2 Advance [D] the control group Simple Questions/Answers
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 551 Robotic Revival Mutation # 550 Graveyard Shift Mutation # 549 Endless Sparkles
Brood War
General
List of top players active on ShieldBattery BW General Discussion Recommended BW Settings for Mouse and Video Starcraft:Brood War Discord Servers [BSL23] RO16 Group Stage
Tourneys
[$1250] International ShieldBattery League Bisu's Team vs Shuttle's Team 2026-11-14 2v2v2v2 Tournament Stage 1: Community Poll [BSL23] Ro16 Group C - Sunday 21:00 CET
Strategy
Pluto's TvP 5Marine 2Medic Push Simple Questions, Simple Answers Infested Terran strategies in 2026 Nuke strategy worked in K-League 2026-11-09
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Free Space RTS Game, optimised f. Phone/Tablet etc List of Game Threads The PlayStation 5
Dota 2
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Artificial Intelligence Thread Trading/Investing Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread
Fan Clubs
Fan Club Resource Thread Reynor Fan Club The Flash Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Football (Soccer) Thread MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
The time I organised my…
AssyrianKing
Why I built Repalyzer (1.1.…
BlueStar
Innovate or Game Over?
TrAiDoS
ShieldBattery on Mac
Kraekkling
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 10821 users

SC2 Newbie Seeking Help

Blogs > qzmpwxno
Post a Reply
qzmpwxno
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Papua New Guinea152 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-10 03:46:05
September 10 2010 03:43 GMT
#1
Hello guys, so I'm a longtime BW player, and I've played the last 3 seasons of iccup, with max rank around D ~1500 and average apm ~80 tho I could go as high as 120 (big battles, etc.) I wasn't a very good player, but I had most of the basic stuff down, like macro/micro, hotkeys, mechanics, strategy, building placement, a few general build orders but mostly just the correct mentality for the different match ups.

NOW. I'm basically giving up BW at this point, not because I realized I suck (LOL, it's true) but because it's just not fun for me anymore. Basically even if my strategy and game plan are decent, I'll lose to someone who is just spamming hotkeys and has higher apm than me. That got tiring after a while, but also the fact is that BW has basically been solved at the highest competitive level. Flash is dominating so hard that I'm pretty much compelled to believe that he solved the game, sure he's going to suffer from fluke losses now and then but he's more or less SOLVED BW. On top of that his style puts me to sleep and I can honestly say I'd rather watch paint dry than watch one of Flash's games.

So, now that I'm more interested in SC2, I fear an even greater challenge awaits me. I know that my previous experience with BW should be beneficial to picking up SC2 but I really have no idea about the new units, new buildings, new abilities, and other new stuff that's completely different from BW.

I was wondering if I should start with Liquipedia and basically get myself familiarized with the new units and buildings and stuff, or if it would be better to play some games first and try to figure some stuff out on my own (even if that means getting stomped in my first 50 games LOL).

So anything like that, for a SC2 newbie like me, would help. Thx every1

Stand on one block but own the whole street~
Exteray
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States1094 Posts
September 10 2010 03:55 GMT
#2
Wait for OSL Finals and u'll change what you said about Flash solving the SC:BW
Azerbaijan
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States660 Posts
September 10 2010 03:57 GMT
#3
Just some thing I did to facilitate switching to Sc2 from broodwar:

Spend some time playing against AI just to familiarize myself with the tech trees and unit abilities.

Assuming you haven't picked a race I suggest you ladder as random for a while until you find what race you enjoy the most or are most comfortable with.

Visit the Sc2 replays thread a lot; skim through and pick out top players and watch all the reps you can find of them. LINK

Avoid getting frustrated. treat your losses as opportunities to learn and improve by watching the replays. Take a break if you do get frustrated, no point in playing if you aren't in the mood to enjoy it.

Watch Day9 Dailies =D LINK
Nightmarjoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States3360 Posts
September 10 2010 04:00 GMT
#4
Copy replays, you come to understand what you're copying as you do it over and over.
aka Lyra; My favourites: July, Stork, Draco, MistrZZZ, TheStc, LastShadow - www.broodwarmaps.net - for all your mapping needs; check my stream: high masters mech terran: twitch.tv/lyrathegreat
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
WardiTV Invitational
21:00
WardiTV Not-Summer Championshi
MaxPax vs Solar
herO vs TBD
Lambo vs TBD
Rogue vs TBD
WardiTV1100
ComeBackTV 918
IntoTheiNu 804
TaKeTV 382
IndyStarCraft 261
Rex118
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
IndyStarCraft 261
Rex 118
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 48834
Calm 4304
Rain 1744
Jaedong 1244
EffOrt 942
BeSt 681
Rush 512
Larva 461
FanTaSy 424
Shuttle 354
[ Show more ]
ZerO 205
Dewaltoss 118
Sharp 113
Mind 95
Hyun 90
Mong 39
hero 26
Killer 26
Hm[arnc] 24
Terrorterran 24
ToSsGirL 22
910 20
sorry 18
Aegong 17
ajuk12(nOOB) 13
Movie 13
Sacsri 12
Shine 12
soO 12
Rock 10
Free 6
Dota 2
qojqva2420
Counter-Strike
edward93
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor405
Trikslyr23
MindelVK11
Other Games
FrodaN3658
singsing2127
Beastyqt593
Lowko365
byalli302
mouzStarbuck284
KnowMe210
syndereN186
ToD175
XaKoH 159
ROOTIllusion21
Railgan16
CosmosSc2 10
ZerO(Twitch)8
Organizations
Other Games
EGCTV951
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hinosc 42
• poizon28 39
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• ChaeLyn 9
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV765
League of Legends
• Jankos2679
Other Games
• Shiphtur216
Upcoming Events
IPSL
20m
TerrOr vs IJ_Terran
rasowy vs Hazorath
BSL
3h 20m
TerrOr vs OyAji
UltrA vs Gosudark
Sparkling Tuna Cup
17h 20m
WardiTV Invitational
19h 20m
IPSL
1d
Art_Of_Turtle vs KameZerg
Radley vs George
BSL
1d 3h
Artosis vs Dewalt
Ret vs Tech
SOOP
1d 17h
soO vs FanTaSy
WardiTV Weekly
1d 19h
Monday Night Weeklies
3 days
PiGosaur Cup
3 days
[ Show More ]
The PondCast
3 days
GSL
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
KCM Race Survival
5 days
RSL Revival
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-11-12
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HCC Season 3

Ongoing

Acropolis #5
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 4
International ShieldBattery League
Individual League
BSL Season 23
IPSL Winter 2026-27
Calamity Cup Div. A Season 8
Underdog Cup 2026 Div 2-3
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026

Upcoming

YSL S4
Sector 591
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
StarCraft2 Weekly Open Tournament 2026 Grand Finals
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
IEM Kraków 2027
PGL Bucharest 2027
BLAST Bounty Winter 2027
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.