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What I learned as a Consultant at PwC Korea Part 2

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MightyAtom
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Korea (South)1897 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-11 16:43:59
August 26 2010 19:47 GMT
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zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15325 Posts
August 26 2010 19:58 GMT
#2
Jeez you need to slow down haha. I love reading those but I can't keep up.

Funny your application story seems familiar. I had a similar experience where I was prepared for every question imaginable and at the very end failed calculating how much their competitors pay on wages total (I think that was it).

I don't know how many part are still coming but I have a question if you don't mind: How did you meet your wive and how did you manage to maintain that relationship? I am working as a consultant as well and I am basically never home nor ever at one place for a period long enough to keep any sort of relationship alive.

Speaking of that have you seen Up In The Air?
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zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
August 26 2010 20:03 GMT
#3
Great read, looking forward to part 3.
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19029 Posts
August 26 2010 20:14 GMT
#4
Arg wtf a trilogy? If you pull a part 4 out I'm gonna sue you or something!

But nice read. With a bit of polish (not people from Poland) this could be a cool movie.
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Artifex
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Belgium189 Posts
August 26 2010 20:37 GMT
#5
Hooooooly sh*t. Please tell me you still sport/excercise regularly because that almost gave me a heart attack just reading that... can't imagine how it'd actually feel what you're going through :p
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LosingID8
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
CA10827 Posts
August 26 2010 20:46 GMT
#6
haha thanks for the blog. i enjoyed the read.

looking forward to your next entry
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Gatsbi
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1134 Posts
August 26 2010 20:47 GMT
#7
That was a really great read, thanks man.. cant wait for part 3.
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MightyAtom
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Korea (South)1897 Posts
August 26 2010 20:48 GMT
#8
On August 27 2010 04:58 zatic wrote:
Jeez you need to slow down haha. I love reading those but I can't keep up.

Funny your application story seems familiar. I had a similar experience where I was prepared for every question imaginable and at the very end failed calculating how much their competitors pay on wages total (I think that was it).

I don't know how many part are still coming but I have a question if you don't mind: How did you meet your wive and how did you manage to maintain that relationship? I am working as a consultant as well and I am basically never home nor ever at one place for a period long enough to keep any sort of relationship alive.

Speaking of that have you seen Up In The Air?


In backwards order, my life was 1 part Up in The Air, 1 Part Michael Clayton and 1 Part 30 Rock. You tell me a country in Asia and I'll tell you which customs line to stand in, and I'm a Cathay Pacific Gold member for the 2nd year off of REGIONAL FLIGHTS lol and the most airportsI flew into in a single day was 4 (Denmark, Amsterdam, Paris, Toulouse). I was known as the fixer in my firm- what a shitty position, never again. And of course, its all about corporate and expense account.

My wife.
1 year after graduation, I went to an annual university gathering call "KO YON JUN" Meanig war between Korea University and Yonsie unviersity. My juniors invited me to visit campus and she was one of my junior's friend and had graduated with her law degree the year before as well and she was now working at a boutique venture capital firm.

When we first started to date, I had to book of one Saturday a week and so we met only on Saturdays for 3 months and then after three months I was like wtf, by this rate I'll never get to know her, so then I booked in 1 more day a week on Wednesday which absolutely destroyed my work week and left me competely screwed- for those you dont' get this, we work till at least 9-10 most nights and get into the office at 9ish or so, so if you take a early night off, you litterally need to make that up some where.

But, because the way PwC is set up, the type of consulting I was engaged with was split between benchmarking and domestic negotiations and then travel for investment assessments.
So at the time, I only traveled once a month for a 3 or 5 day max trip. And travel to the EU was only once every 3 months and then it was for 2weeks and we packed in all the trips during that time for all clients. So, at least I was mostly in the country.
But I closed the deal quickly, by about 3 months later we were engaged and 3 months after that married.

Now, where I completely get you is that I got picked up by PokerStars after I had been married and this is where it got nuts for the last 3 and half years, I'll say for my first year of marriage, I was alway from half the year, for the second year of marriage 80% of the year and the 3rd year about 50% when my child was born until I quit 6 months ago. Of course, in my case where I'm senior enough, taking 6 months off hasn't been a problem, but my next job needs to be something wihtout a lot of travel, so im down to 2 options which I'll chose within the next week

Even with the fact as a executive I had the option to fly my wife out with me if my stay in any location was over a week and a half, it ws too much for her. You forget that normal people don't travel that much and lving in a hotel is still living in a small arpartmetn no matter how luxuerous. But basically, I have made it, but if I didn't quit, I was on the verge of, not divorce, but I was causing too much strain on our marriage.

It's also different, my wife comes from a corporate family, he dad is a ceo of big company and so she knows what are the necessary sacrifices and a few months after we got married she quit her job.

BUT in terms of your situation, you need to go on as many freaking dates as you can when you at your home location and then exchange emails with mulitple people so that at least you can get to know them more. Then you will have to make a lifestyle choice and if you've done your 2 years, then apply like nuts for a senior manager role and settle down a bit.

Short answer is, and you know it too, you can't get married like that, you have to get out and get scouted by a big stable firm and then get married. Or get into a mulit-national and get sent aboard on an expat package and then youll have some time to settle down and get a relationship going or if you get married during this time, they will take care of all your housing etc. Or if you havent' done your MBA yet, make a deal with your firm to sponsor you, find a girl and get married during your MBA period and then go for management in your own firm and that is all about getting clients.

Send me a pm with your email and what field, I have a lot of connections in EU in the gaming field, I might be able to get you a good senior position where you can settle down, even in Germany.
Cheers ^^
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Terrakin
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1440 Posts
August 26 2010 20:54 GMT
#9
nice read, looking forward to pt.3
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thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
August 26 2010 21:16 GMT
#10
great reads Dave
Baksteen
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Netherlands438 Posts
August 26 2010 21:45 GMT
#11
I loved reading this haha.

Giev part 3!
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d_so
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Korea (South)3262 Posts
August 26 2010 21:53 GMT
#12
haha i'm more sober now and man that was a great read! really encourages me to get back to school and get my masters so i can stand up and not get pwned during the job interview when we share what university we graduated from.
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Turgon
Profile Joined April 2010
United States37 Posts
August 26 2010 22:13 GMT
#13
Awesome blog. Reminds me a lot of friends I had in college who were going for consulting positions. I didn't take my education quite as seriously as them until too late, so the top consulting positions were a little out of my reach. I took the Accounting/CPA route instead. Still lots of crazy hours, but at least I'm not out of the country all the time. Looking forward to installment #3.
Entropic
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2837 Posts
August 26 2010 23:05 GMT
#14
Great blog, too bad we already know the ending (not the details though).
Abenson
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada4122 Posts
August 26 2010 23:25 GMT
#15
I want my part 3 D:
kidd
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
United States2848 Posts
August 26 2010 23:43 GMT
#16
Very interesting story and you are a very gifted writer. Even though I don't have a clue about the job and what exactly you do it sounds like a very interesting life that you live.

Myself I just graduated and am going to pursue law school next year so I hope to be able to write about my exploits through life in a few years.
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MightyAtom
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Korea (South)1897 Posts
August 27 2010 01:41 GMT
#17
On August 27 2010 06:53 d_so wrote:
haha i'm more sober now and man that was a great read! really encourages me to get back to school and get my masters so i can stand up and not get pwned during the job interview when we share what university we graduated from.


On the undergrad degree part, I definately feel you. I graduated high school one year early so I could take a year off and study music and my parents reneged on their agreement and secretly registered me in the only univerisity taking applications in MAY. Omg, I was the like the last one to register for all my classes and got them all at 4pm, the exact time that I have taken a nap for the last 4 years of my life in high school (6:30 am Rugby practice everyday).
It was actually the best thing that happened to me or else I probably would have ended up as an elitiest cocksucker, but man, people are like, what, you went there? Of all places why? They don't mention it now though ^^
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MightyAtom
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Korea (South)1897 Posts
August 27 2010 01:44 GMT
#18
Guys thank you so much for the comments, much appreciated and I'll say a lot of my close friends are CPAs from my days at PwC and the Business and Law strat equals CFO or head legal council which is like ultralisk ling ownage. keke.
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d_so
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Korea (South)3262 Posts
August 27 2010 02:00 GMT
#19
On August 27 2010 10:41 MightyAtom wrote:
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On August 27 2010 06:53 d_so wrote:
haha i'm more sober now and man that was a great read! really encourages me to get back to school and get my masters so i can stand up and not get pwned during the job interview when we share what university we graduated from.


On the undergrad degree part, I definately feel you. I graduated high school one year early so I could take a year off and study music and my parents reneged on their agreement and secretly registered me in the only univerisity taking applications in MAY. Omg, I was the like the last one to register for all my classes and got them all at 4pm, the exact time that I have taken a nap for the last 4 years of my life in high school (6:30 am Rugby practice everyday).
It was actually the best thing that happened to me or else I probably would have ended up as an elitiest cocksucker, but man, people are like, what, you went there? Of all places why? They don't mention it now though ^^


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Ack1027
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States7873 Posts
August 27 2010 03:40 GMT
#20
I always figured your Korean was native level from your posts!

It makes the story a lot more interesting for me anyway to learn its not fluent, though your definition of that word might have a ton of modesty ;P
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