• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 17:43
CEST 23:43
KST 06:43
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection7Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO8 Preview7[ASL21] Finals Preview: Two Legacies21
Community News
Weekly Cups (June 8-14): Clem and Solar double, PTR tested0RSL: S6 Finals played at BlizzCon 202611Douyu Cup 2026: $20,000 Legends Event (June 26-28)10[BSL22] Non-Korean Championship from 13 to 28 June4Weekly Cups (May 25-31): Clem doubles, 2v2 circuit heads toward finale0
StarCraft 2
General
TL Poll: How do you feel about the 5.0.16 PTR balance changes? Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO8 Preview Updates to The Core/Core Lite for v5.0.16? RSL: S6 Finals played at BlizzCon 2026 Weekly Cups (June 8-14): Clem and Solar double, PTR tested
Tourneys
GSL CK #4 20-21th June Douyu Cup 2026: $20,000 Legends Event (June 26-28) Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule ! Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond)
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Work In Progress Melee Maps [D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
Mutation # 530 One For All The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 529 Opportunities Unleashed Mutation # 528 Infection Detected
Brood War
General
vespene.gg — BW replays in browser Where is EffOrt? BW General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Quality of life changes in BW that you will like ?
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Grand Finals [BSL22] Grand Finals - Sunday 21:00 CEST Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2
Strategy
Relatively freeroll strategies Creating a full chart of Zerg builds Why doesn't anyone use restoration? Any training maps people recommend?
Other Games
General Games
Beyond All Reason ZeroSpace Megathread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Total War: Warhammer 40K Path of Exile
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread UK Politics Mega-thread [H]Internet/Gaming Cafe Tips and Tricks Trading/Investing Thread
Fan Clubs
The HerO Fan Club! The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [TV/BOOK] *SPOILERS* Game of Thrones Discussion [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion Cricket [SPORT] NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Facing Challenges in Mobile App Development
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Does Workplace Frustration D…
TrAiDoS
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
I'm an arrogant trash talke…
FlaShFTW
Gauntlet SC2: A Retrospectiv…
Ctone23
Why RTS gamers make better f…
gosubay
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 9947 users

Aspirations and visions about the future

Blogs > disciple
Post a Reply
disciple
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9071 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-06 21:11:53
June 06 2010 21:07 GMT
#1
Aspirations and visions about the future - everyone has them, but the ideas about what will happen in the future must be split in two different categories:

1. Concept for the future in general (the whole world and the humanity, that is)
2. Idea of one's personal future.

These two are entirely different things, and thou they may have a strong connection, one can exist without the other. For example, Joe thinks, in 2040 robots will take over the Earth, but he has no idea, what he is going to do, when he is done with the college, which is going to happen in 3 years time.

I want to focus on the first category , the future in general and how we form our expectations, ideas and visions about it. As everything else, our opinion about the topic is determined by the information sources, in the most brightest sense, we are coming across. Mass media, books, education, our family and the environment we grew up in, personal experience, etc. Our ideas about life, death and everything that is in between and after, reflects our ability to absorb the information around us.

Indeed, the concept for the future of any individual can hardly be unique, humans imagination already captured most of the possibilities in sci-fi literature and movies, but aside from that, the technological advancement in general seems to be predictable, even thou it doesn't happen as fast as people (or sci-fi authors in specific) expect it to happen.

I was thinking about all this the other day, and I really asked myself where the world and the humanity is going and what is going to happen in say 30 or so years time. My thoughts let me to the realization, that there are a couple of basic concepts, the godfathers of our sci-fi imaginations:

Global natural disaster, end of humanity
One of the most common ideas about the future, is that the world will come to an end and humans will face extinction because of a natural disaster. Tones of prophecies, books and movies were made on the topic.

Technological dystopia
A future where the girls are like Motoko Kusanagi and the boys are like JC Denton. Future with no moral boundaries, where everything, regarding science and medicine is possible and allowed.

Third World War
Another common idea is that humanity, social order, nature and environment as we know them today will stop being, because of a great national conflict, including nuclear or chemical weapons.

Social Collapse
A future where the social order of today, both in terms of policy and goods distribution, is no more. The most likely reason for it will be the economy.

New social order, Utopia
Communism comes in mind, but maybe it could be something completely different. Main idea is new system of goods distribution and policy, all for a greater good.

Technological and spiritual Utopia
Mankind achieves immortality, there are no diseases, we live in perfect harmony with the world around us. Our goal is to explore the universe and the reason of our being.


Or maybe none of those will happen? What do you think?

Poll: What is your concept about the future?

New social order, Utopia (4)
 
33%

Global natural disaster, end of humanity (3)
 
25%

Third World War (2)
 
17%

Social Collapse (2)
 
17%

Technological dystopia (1)
 
8%

Technological and spiritual Utopia (0)
 
0%

Something different (explain what) (0)
 
0%

12 total votes

Your vote: What is your concept about the future?

(Vote): Global natural disaster, end of humanity
(Vote): Technological dystopia
(Vote): Third World War
(Vote): Social Collapse
(Vote): New social order, Utopia
(Vote): Technological and spiritual Utopia
(Vote): Something different (explain what)




**
Administrator"I'm a big deal." - ixmike88
Failsafe
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States1298 Posts
June 06 2010 21:12 GMT
#2
always in motion
MrBitter: Phoenixes... They're like flying hellions. Always cost efficient.
RaGe
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Belgium9950 Posts
June 06 2010 21:18 GMT
#3
I actually believe in extinction/mass death of the human race in the next couple hundred years. We are manipulating so many things we don't fully understand or realize the consequences of, that we're bound to have fucked up.
Sometimes the consequences of things only manifest themselves after a long period of time, when it's already too late.

I'll give you an example: not too much is known about the EXACT cause of cancer. With all the changes to the human environment and nurishment that happened in the past 100 years, there's bound to be something we consume or spend a lot of time around that has such a bad, but delayed effect on our bodies that we die.

In general, we have so much power over our environment that we do not hesitate to abuse eventhough direct consequences aren't know yet. Yeah, humanity is smart, but humans fuck up all the time, even with the strictest of safety regulations. Shit like the oil leak in the gulf of mexico is just bound to happen.
Moderatorsometimes I get intimidated by the size of my right testicle
wanderer
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States641 Posts
June 06 2010 21:21 GMT
#4
Great insight on the topic:

Fuck you, I have a degree in mathematics and I speak 12 languages. (I called the World Cup final in 2008 btw)
BuGzlToOnl
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States5918 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-06 22:18:08
June 06 2010 22:05 GMT
#5
In my opinion it will be a combination of the things you have listed not just a single event. One event will feed the other and in my personal opinion it will all be for the worse. "Man" knows and has done nothing different since the "beginning". The individual is a genius while the collective/social construct as a whole is just the opposite.

Maybe I'm a cynic, but even now I see people and they refuse to change their habits unless the world around them changes. Only when something is forced on someone will the change remain permanent. Instead of going through a relapse and returning to their old habits.

Here's BuGzlToOnl future break down:

The event that will start things of will be a global natural disaster. Be it global warming, the super volcano, a mega earth quake, a tsunami, or what ever is destined to occur in 2012. This will not be that harmful on a global scale to human kind as a whole, but it will create a lot of conflict. Instead of everyone making sacrifices and working together to figure things out diplomatically our very brilliant leaders from around the world will blame each other and start arguing on past histories between their countries. Things that happened over 500 years ago and don't really matter. Somehow same-sex marriage will get thrown into the mix along with a couple other political scandals.

Inevitably this will lead to a Third World War. Fun fact WWI was first named the "War to End All Wars" because past leaders didn't think future leaders would be as stupid as they once were, but again "man" doesn't change. So here we go, yet again. WWIII will eventually start; all because we can't learn to share and play nice with our neighbors.

Your technological dystopia will also start here. Here societies will think up creative ways to kill each other more effectively without killing themselves or blowing up the planet. Sooner or later though nuclear missiles will be launched and blow everything the fuck up. Nuclear winter will follow killing mostly everyone that took part in said war along with those who wished and tried to prevent it from taking place. This includes children who don't even know the true meaning of hate. Which to me is the most disturbing thing mankind does to itself.

But mankind is resilient; he will survive.

Here's where the social collapse comes into play. Now that governments are no longer in power people will be forced to fend for themselves. The world will become something that resembles the "The Road" or "The Book of Eli"; if you haven't seen them I strongly recommend both. Simply put; amazing films. Cannibalism will become all the rage. If your not a cannibal your not cool.

With a lot of time; and I do mean A LOT societies will start to form a new. I doubt that mankind will ever truly become extinct. Not as long as Earth exists. Now that we have learned to be true only what was speculated in the past, things will change. Finally mankind try to transcend into a new social order; a Utopia. Or so it we would seem. To build utopia from the ground up is a lot of work. So we will require two tiers of people. One the workers and two the ruling class. Cue in the 1927 German film "Metropolis". Where the ruling class lives in paradise from atop while the working class in tunnels maintaining this new Utopia from below. Unseen and unheard until a revolution takes place and evens things out.

Sooner or later mankind will start again where it left off in cycle and will renew anew. The End.
If you want to make God laugh, tell Him your plans.
BuGzlToOnl
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States5918 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-06 22:19:00
June 06 2010 22:09 GMT
#6
Oh and in regards to the technological and spiritual Utopia. I don't really think that it is within the grasp of mankind to obtain. Each individual would have to sacrifice a lot for this to happen and selflessness is a rare quality within our species.
If you want to make God laugh, tell Him your plans.
disciple
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9071 Posts
June 06 2010 22:17 GMT
#7
I've put the options in this order for a reason
Administrator"I'm a big deal." - ixmike88
Djin)ftw(
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Germany3357 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-07 07:58:38
June 06 2010 22:33 GMT
#8
Thinking about the future is irrelevant since it's determined (Einstein is right!).
But if I'd to guess, I'd say that in ~30 years:
- only a small portion of us has to work. The gross of most production processes will be done by machines, therefore making physical labor obsolete. The economy will be organized in a world-wide fashion, most likely by gigantic companies employing hundreds of thousands of people. Since natural ressources like oil became much more expensive, most things (cars, power stations...) are working with solar power. Mankind realized that the way capitalism works nowadays (increasing productivity by x % every year in order to employ the same number of people getting x% more money every year) had to stop at some point. With more and more people not being needed to produce everyday goods (nowadays ~25% work in the industrial sector. It will be ~5% then) while not being able to get other jobs there is a bunch of people who live from donations/social systems.

- political power is not only in the hand of the USA anymore. Europe, China, India (which will have conquered Pakistan by then in order to prevent a nuclear war) have their own strong armies, economies and research capabilities. The former OPEC countries are all being abandoned

- Israel will be the first country to be hit by a terrorist attack involving a nuclear bomb. The counterattack leads to Iran being completely destroyed although nobody can prove the Iranian government supported the terrorists.

- proceedings in genetic engineering lead to a whole new industry: people will optimize their children regarding several aspects (health issues, cognitive capabilities...). Since the average life span went up to ~120 years in the first world countries people only get children as a sort of self replacement when getting 60+ (not more than 2 per couple)

- religion as we know it became obsolete. Drugs and tiny electronic devices being able to provide religious revelations, psychedelic experiences and orgasmic feelings are omnipresent. Since there is a whole lot of people not working a new, dangerous cult arose: they worship Jesse Jobs, son of Steve Jobs, CEO of Banana (which is market leader regarding disposable electronic devices)

- when Earth has to send it's finest man to fight for it in Mortal Kombat, Jesse Jobs is elected via public voting. It's when the Earth falls to Shang Tsungs hordes that people realize that democracy doesn't work
"jk CLG best mindgames using the baron to counterthrow" - boesthius
jackofclubs81
Profile Joined January 2010
United States196 Posts
June 06 2010 22:47 GMT
#9
The utipias are impossible to achieve.
We will all blow each other up or something similar will end our existance.
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 2h 17m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
mouzHeroMarine 454
ProTech160
BRAT_OK 65
CosmosSc2 34
StarCraft: Brood War
Sea 322
Dota 2
monkeys_forever340
canceldota71
Counter-Strike
Coldzera 1445
Super Smash Bros
PPMD41
hungrybox0
Other Games
Grubby4686
shahzam591
FrodaN538
C9.Mang0273
mouzStarbuck237
Liquid`Hasu191
ArmadaUGS153
ROOTCatZ149
Trikslyr46
OptimusSC29
minikerr5
ViBE5
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream2917
Other Games
BasetradeTV227
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 17 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 57
• musti20045 31
• Migwel
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• sooper7s
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
StarCraft: Brood War
• Michael_bg 7
• FirePhoenix3
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
League of Legends
• TFBlade1270
Other Games
• imaqtpie1079
• Shiphtur268
Upcoming Events
PiGosaur Cup
2h 17m
Replay Cast
11h 17m
The PondCast
1d 12h
OSC
2 days
CranKy Ducklings
2 days
GSL
3 days
Maru vs ShoWTimE
Classic vs Reynor
herO vs Lambo
Solar vs Clem
BSL22 NKC (BSL vs China)
3 days
XuanXuan vs Jaystar
Mihu vs Messiah
eOnzErG vs Dewalt
Bonyth vs Jaystar
TerrOr vs Messiah
XuanXuan vs Mihu
eOnzErG vs Jaystar
Replay Cast
4 days
GSL
4 days
Patches Events
4 days
[ Show More ]
BSL22 NKC (BSL vs China)
4 days
Dewalt vs Messiah
Bonyth vs Mihu
TerrOr vs XuanXuan
eOnzErG vs Messiah
Jaystar vs Mihu
Dewalt vs XuanXuan
Bonyth vs TerrOr
Replay Cast
5 days
WardiTV Weekly
5 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-06-15
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Heroes Pulsing #1

Ongoing

IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
Acropolis #4
CSCL: Masked Kings S4
YSL S3
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
SCTL 2026 Spring
Maestros of the Game 2
WardiTV Spring 2026
Murky Cup 2026
Heroes Pulsing #2
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1

Upcoming

CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
HSC XXIX
Douyu Cup 2026
BCC 2026
Heroes Pulsing #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.