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Whinge Blog: Why am I so bad at SC2?

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ThunderGod
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
New Zealand897 Posts
May 10 2010 12:25 GMT
#1
Ok so I got my beta key the other day and I've been playing some 1v1 matches. Why am I so bad?

In SC1 I am a D+ Terran player. From what I was reading this equates to Gold or even Platinum in the SC2 beta. Yet I find I am struggling in the bronze section.

Couple of thoughts:
-I'm having trouble with the pace of SC2, it feels like things happen at different times and it's throwing me off, e.g. building units at the wrong time.
-If the game lasts more than 10 mins I always win cos of my much better macro(why does noone expand in this game??!)
-Clearly my macro isn't very good since I often lose at the start.

Thanks for reading my whinge blog. If only SC1 had matchmaking!!!!

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"Certain forms of popular music nowadays, namely rap and hip hop styles, are just irritating gangsters bragging about their illegal exploits and short-sighted lifestyles." - Shiverfish ~2009
Try
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States1293 Posts
May 10 2010 12:27 GMT
#2
Play zerg. 1 base roach every game. If you were legit D+ in SC1, you'll get to platinum in no time.
Sadistx
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Zimbabwe5568 Posts
May 10 2010 12:30 GMT
#3
Eh? SC2 is so much easier than SC1. I was a D+ terran in BW, but after i actually started playing, I went to platinum in less than 3 days.

Are you making marauders at all?
Wings
Profile Joined January 2010
United States999 Posts
May 10 2010 12:43 GMT
#4
You're losing at the "start"? Try defending against cheese, or scouting more. I'm guessing a big reason you're D+ is because you don't scout enough. IMO SC2 is a game where there's no "standard safe opening" yet cuz you need to react to what your opponent is doing. Either scout more or learn some cheese builds...
The probability of Kim Carrier getting all those predictions wrong is similar to the probability Flash loses a TvT. Kim Carrier MUST BE a genius. His only big mistake... STORK.
Phayze
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2029 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-10 13:19:52
May 10 2010 13:19 GMT
#5
I was a C macro player, I found the transition to starcraft 2 incredibly easy. In BW, i never relied on strategy to win, more so I got into heavy expansion war gameplay with high APM with good mutlitasking and harassment. starcraft 2 sooo easy. Perhaps take your D+ game knowledge, and try more economic type defensive builds. Stop rushes with a stronger economy, then switch to a macro heavy build and just win.
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TheAntZ
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Israel6248 Posts
May 10 2010 13:26 GMT
#6
SC2 is incredibly easy compared to BW, i was a pathetic player in BW, even with toss, yet i could maintain plat in sc2 easily with any race, even if it was lowish (< 30) rank
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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43633 Posts
May 10 2010 13:43 GMT
#7
You're welcome by the way.
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Thrill
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
2599 Posts
May 10 2010 13:46 GMT
#8
Wow, whinge - a word that definitely deserves do die out...
Reason
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United Kingdom2770 Posts
May 10 2010 13:57 GMT
#9
On May 10 2010 22:46 Thrill wrote:
Wow, whinge - a word that definitely deserves do die out...

I think you need a little more education before you make such important judgements.
Speak properly, and in as few words as you can, but always plainly; for the end of speech is not ostentation, but to be understood.
Ftrunkz
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Australia2474 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-10 14:22:29
May 10 2010 14:22 GMT
#10
Everyones gona come in here with "lol, just do *x strat people do against me that pisses me off*, plat in no time". Don't listen to them, keep experimenting, play solid, and once you do learn how to hold yourself into the mid-game, your mechanics (even if they were lousy by broodwars standards) will crush any gold and below player very easily
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Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-10 14:32:14
May 10 2010 14:32 GMT
#11
Sc2 is easy. But like in bw you have to pick Protoss to feel really gosu.
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
ThunderGod
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
New Zealand897 Posts
May 10 2010 14:38 GMT
#12
On May 10 2010 22:43 KwarK wrote:
You're welcome by the way.

Yeah thanks a bunch.


Guess I will get better after a few days once I know some BOs. FEing doesn't seem to work for me lol. Oh and I've been randoming for now.
"Certain forms of popular music nowadays, namely rap and hip hop styles, are just irritating gangsters bragging about their illegal exploits and short-sighted lifestyles." - Shiverfish ~2009
calvinL
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada416 Posts
May 10 2010 15:38 GMT
#13
oh fe....yea don't do that unless you're zerg and even then its kinda risky especially at the lower levels because of all the cheeses
FreshNoThyme
Profile Joined March 2008
United States356 Posts
May 10 2010 15:47 GMT
#14
On May 10 2010 22:57 Reason wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2010 22:46 Thrill wrote:
Wow, whinge - a word that definitely deserves do die out...

I think you need a little more education before you make such important judgements.


He made a statement concerning a word needing to die out (meaning he dislikes seeing it or people use it), which is not that uncommon of a thought. Following that, you insult is education based on a typographical error. Do you not see how little sense this makes?
Fontong
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States6454 Posts
May 10 2010 15:55 GMT
#15
D+ is equivalent to high plat. Definitely not gold. I was a D+ protoss and I got up to 1700 rating with a good w/l. I'm also terran, so I don't get what would be different for you. I found it pretty easy to learn all the new timings and builds, ect.

And dude, SC1 does have an AMM server now.
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Reason
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United Kingdom2770 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-10 16:02:06
May 10 2010 15:57 GMT
#16
On May 11 2010 00:47 RANDOMCL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2010 22:57 Reason wrote:
On May 10 2010 22:46 Thrill wrote:
Wow, whinge - a word that definitely deserves do die out...

I think you need a little more education before you make such important judgements.


He made a statement concerning a word needing to die out (meaning he dislikes seeing it or people use it), which is not that uncommon of a thought. Following that, you insult is education based on a typographical error. Do you not see how little sense this makes?


Do you not see it was a joke?
Do you not see how little I care?

For being a typographical error it's a pretty derrible one
Speak properly, and in as few words as you can, but always plainly; for the end of speech is not ostentation, but to be understood.
EchOne
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States2906 Posts
May 10 2010 16:17 GMT
#17
Don't worry about your mechanics. If you held D+ solidly late into multiple seasons, your mechanics should be more than enough to sustain platinum in SC2. If timing is throwing you off you probably just need to streamline your build. Try to understand why builds you did in BW were optimal and then try to understand why the builds you're doing right now are failing you. Lacking that, you can try to copy builds of top players' replays, but you'll lose out on a lot of learning that could probably benefit you seeing as you're not even in platinum yet.

You could also post a replay of yourself and hope some gracious soul analyzes it for you, though optimally you should be able to do this yourself.

Also is whinge commonly used where you live?
面白くない世の中, 面白くすればいいさ
tarpman
Profile Joined February 2009
Canada719 Posts
May 10 2010 16:24 GMT
#18
I hear you on the macro thing. I'm having basically the same experience -- if it goes to a long macro game I win by keeping my money down better, but not many of my games are getting that far. Most people seem more interested in massing units that counter mine off one base, so I'm losing a lot because I know very little about the early/midgame counters.

The suggestions that I can give you for Terran: make lots of marauders, research concussive shells ASAP (and +1 and stim when you can afford them), and don't expand until you know you can defend it. A lot of my losses have come from expanding too early (bad habit from playing Z in BW) and being unable to hold the expansion against a one base push.
Saving the world, one kilobyte at a time.
ThunderGod
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
New Zealand897 Posts
May 10 2010 16:25 GMT
#19
On May 11 2010 01:17 EchOne wrote:
...
Also is whinge commonly used where you live?

You lazy Americans leave out the 'g' ;p

Thanks for all the advice. I kinda know all this (watching reps, learning BO's etc) - I was just surprised at how bad I am starting beta yesterday not knowing anything about SC2 but having decent skills at SC1.
"Certain forms of popular music nowadays, namely rap and hip hop styles, are just irritating gangsters bragging about their illegal exploits and short-sighted lifestyles." - Shiverfish ~2009
ThunderGod
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
New Zealand897 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-10 16:29:55
May 10 2010 16:27 GMT
#20
Tarpman that sounds like me exactly. I don't yet know which units counter what. Like apparently marines don't counter mutas (lol?) 'vikings' do (guy who owned me kindly told me haha).

And dude, SC1 does have an AMM server now.

What is it?
"Certain forms of popular music nowadays, namely rap and hip hop styles, are just irritating gangsters bragging about their illegal exploits and short-sighted lifestyles." - Shiverfish ~2009
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