• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 07:39
CEST 13:39
KST 20:39
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2911Serral wins Maestros of the Game 243ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12
Community News
Reynor: GSL Loss Wasn't About Preparation Format10[IPSL] Spring 2026 Grand Finals - This Weekend!1Weekly Cups (July 6 - 12): Protoss strike back6BSL Season 22 Full Overview & Conclusion8BSL Season 22 Full Overview & Conclusion8
StarCraft 2
General
Weekly Cups (July 6 - 12): Protoss strike back Latest hotfix to Patch 5.0.16 Serral wins HomeStory Cup 29 Reynor: GSL Loss Wasn't About Preparation Format Co-op Commander Guide: Kerrigan
Tourneys
WardiTV Summer Cup 2026 GSL CK #5 Race War RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event HomeStory Cup 29 Vespene Cup #1 — $300+ USD, July 10
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
New Map Maker - Looking for Advice - Love or Hate Work In Progress Melee Maps [D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 534 Burning Evacuation Mutation # 533 Die Together Mutation # 532 Nuclear Family
Brood War
General
Pros Debate: Zerg Unfairly Nerfed? (ASL S22 map) screpdb: new Starcraft reporting tool BSL Season 22 Full Overview & Conclusion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ ASL 22 Proposed Map Pool
Tourneys
[ASL22] Wildcard Qualifier [IPSL] Spring 2026 Grand Finals - This Weekend! [Megathread] Daily Proleagues IPSL Spring 2026 Top 4!
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers Creating a full chart of Zerg builds Relatively freeroll strategies
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread General RTS Discussion Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Path of Exile Summer Games Done Quick 2026!
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance TL Mafia Community Thread TL Mafia Power Rank Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread UK Politics Mega-thread YouTube Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club The HerO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion! Series you have seen recently...
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story Tennis[sport] Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Simple Questions Simple Answers FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop How to clean a TTe Thermaltake keyboard?
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
The Experiences We Want and …
TrAiDoS
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
Gauntlet SC2: A Retrospectiv…
Ctone23
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Evil Gacha Games and the…
ffswowsucks
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 6044 users

SC2 won't kill SC - Page 3

Blogs > Freezard
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 All
jello_biafra
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United Kingdom6642 Posts
February 28 2010 01:15 GMT
#41
On February 28 2010 01:15 Sadist wrote:
I dont really see why anyone who isnt a korean progamer would continue playing seriously/competatively when SC2 comes out. The Mechanics of BW are far too cumbersome/annoying and you get very little out compared to what you put in.

That's exactly why I find the game so enjoyable, it's an actual task to play. For 12 years I've been looking for something superior and nothing has even come close, somehow I don't think SC2 will for me either, it changes all the things I thought were so amazing about BW and leaves me with the bad bits of every other RTS game I've seen in the last however many years -_-

Who knows though I haven't played it yet, I may actually enjoy it.
The road to hell is paved with good intentions | aka Probert[PaiN] @ iccup / godlikeparagon @ twitch | my BW stream: http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/jello_biafra
Zapdos_Smithh
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada2620 Posts
February 28 2010 01:21 GMT
#42
let's just wait till SC2 is fully out and more balanced to see.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-28 01:27:24
February 28 2010 01:24 GMT
#43
On February 28 2010 02:47 Freezard wrote:
-CS:S did definitely not replace CS.

-UT2003/UT2004/UT3 did not replace UT, there are more UT tournaments today as well as over 2000 players constantly playing on public.

-Did CoD4 replace CoD2? Did CoD5 and 6 replace CoD4? Judging by the amount of players on ClanBase for example, CoD2 still has way more players than most other online games today, and CoD4 has a ridiculous amount of players.

The thing is that, while the scene didn't *die* thanks to the sequels in each of these cases, in all cases the competitive scene was noticeably crippled by the appearance of a sequel, due to the outward bleed of both players and spectators.

I think the sentiment is not that Brood War will for certain die in the face of SC2, but that if SC2 is a good enough game to kill Brood War and live up to it's competitive legacy, it's a vastly better outcome than if SC2 *isn't* good enough to kill Brood War, and instead we have two crippled competitive scenes that both are poor successors to the current BW scene (which is what happened in the CS/Source split--both competitive scenes are alive, so to speak, but neither live up to how big the game was prior to Source's release).
Moderator
Krolinkos
Profile Joined February 2010
Australia74 Posts
February 28 2010 02:54 GMT
#44
On February 28 2010 02:55 nbaker wrote:
After the hype fizzles out, people will play the game that is more fun.
My money is on Brood War


Let's replay that:

after the hype fizzles out....

Considering that there's going to be two expansion packs, the hype won't die down for at least two years, if not two and a half; it will take an additional year to see the final unit mix settle down into the 'standard play' that we now see in the SC:BW scene. Even after this, we'll still see innovations for a long while, just as we saw the emergence of the new playstyles in BW over time.

That's about 3 years that the hype/focus will be on SC2. In that time, the foreign scene will almost completely switch. The Korean leagues will work something out with blizzard. Battle.net will bring in more players with the WoW (urrrggghhh) and D3 integration - and who knows what else. Maybe there will start to be some better foreign players, and we'll start our own leagues!

Regardless, in order for an esport to succeed, there has to be a large player and spectator base. When SC2 comes out, this base for SC1 will slowly dwindle and die out. When that happens, the proleagues as we know them today won't be viable, and without the leading light of the korean scene the foreign SC players won't have something to aim for, which will lead to the death of the foreign scene, if it hasn't switched already.
Unashamedly nerdy.
Prev 1 2 3 All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Kung Fu Cup
11:00
2026 Week 15
IntoTheiNu 595
WardiTV225
RotterdaM214
Ryung 179
TKL 123
SteadfastSC114
IndyStarCraft 89
Rex85
LiquipediaDiscussion
The PondCast
10:00
Episode 101
CranKy Ducklings32
CranKy Ducklings SOOP14
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RotterdaM 214
Ryung 179
TKL 123
SteadfastSC 114
IndyStarCraft 89
Rex 85
ProTech69
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 4014
Hyuk 2484
Sea 1739
Rain 1504
Bisu 1171
Shuttle 766
Jaedong 516
Horang2 496
Mini 321
EffOrt 211
[ Show more ]
Mong 182
actioN 172
Soulkey 153
Stork 141
Last 140
Light 138
Soma 113
Killer 102
Snow 97
ggaemo 82
Hyun 68
Leta 67
Zeus 65
ZerO 56
Rush 53
ToSsGirL 41
Free 38
hero 37
scan(afreeca) 36
JYJ 35
soO 29
sorry 29
Barracks 26
910 24
Sacsri 22
Aegong 15
Movie 13
Noble 11
ZergMaN 9
Yoon 6
Dota 2
Gorgc4751
Dendi337
League of Legends
Doublelift2371
Counter-Strike
byalli449
edward94
Other Games
B2W.Neo285
Lowko244
Pyrionflax203
Sick174
XaKoH 156
ZerO(Twitch)10
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick2513
BasetradeTV172
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 38
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 11 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos2461
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
21h 22m
CrankTV Team League
23h 22m
Replay Cast
1d 21h
CrankTV Team League
1d 23h
Replay Cast
2 days
RSL Revival
2 days
Clem vs Lambo
Scarlett vs Cure
CranKy Ducklings
2 days
IPSL
3 days
Dragon vs Hawk
RSL Revival
3 days
Classic vs Trap
herO vs SHIN
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
[ Show More ]
IPSL
4 days
Bonyth vs Ret
WardiTV Weekly
4 days
Monday Night Weeklies
5 days
PiGosaur Cup
6 days
The PondCast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

YSL S3
HSC XXIX
Eternal Conflict S2 E2

Ongoing

IPSL Spring 2026
Acropolis #4
CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
SCTL 2026 Spring
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S3: W3
ASL S22 SEASON OPEN Day 1
Escore Tournament S3: W4
ASL S22 SEASON OPEN Day 2
Escore Tournament S3: W5
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
Light Tournament 2026
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale
Eternal Conflict S2 E3
Logitech G Connect 2026
StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.