• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 07:52
CEST 13:52
KST 20:52
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2914Serral wins Maestros of the Game 243ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12
Community News
Weekly Cups (July 27-Aug 2): SHIN's big week0SC4ALL II: Brood War - $2500 - Dec 5-67SC4ALL II announced - $10,000 prize pool, Dec 5-64PIG STY FESTIVAL 8.0! (13 - 23 August)11Neeb returns to progaming; rejoins ONSYDE18
StarCraft 2
General
Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) Clem: "I don't have that much hope in Blizzard" Geoff 'iNcontroL' Robinson has passed away Neeb returns to progaming; rejoins ONSYDE State of the Game podcast archive?
Tourneys
Tasteless Time Warp: SC Evo Showmatch (May 25) SC4ALL II announced - $10,000 prize pool, Dec 5-6 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament PIG STY FESTIVAL 8.0! (13 - 23 August) RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 537 Hostile Territory Mutation # 536 Railroad Switch Mutation # 535 Assembly of Vengeance
Brood War
General
ASL22 General Discussion [Personal Project Share] Terran Defense v0.60 Data needed BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3 2v2v2v2 Tournament SC4ALL II: Brood War - $2500 - Dec 5-6
Strategy
Any training maps people recommend? Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread ZeroSpace Early Access is Now Live! General RTS Discussion Thread Nintendo Switch Thread Beyond All Reason
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish TSM pausing esports and CLG Dead
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Power Rank TL Mafia Community Thread NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Artificial Intelligence Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
The Clem Fan Club INnoVation Fan Club The Scarlett Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! Series you have seen recently... [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 McBoner: A hockey love story
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Simple Questions Simple Answers FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Northern Ireland Global Starcraft
Blogs
Please support my new stand…
Peanutsc
What is a Gamer?
TrAiDoS
Hello guys!
LIN1s
ASL S22 English Commentary…
namkraft
Poker (part 2)
Nebuchad
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 5559 users

CJ vs Woongjin 1set

Blogs > PH
Post a Reply
PH
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6173 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-30 10:03:22
January 30 2010 09:32 GMT
#1


Man...this is seriously one of the best games I've seen in a while.

+ Show Spoiler +
Soulkey played so damn well in the late game...too bad you just can't get back from that kind of disadvantage.

So...Soulkey hurts Iris to a considerable degree with his mutas. Then Iris does this really weird move where he moves all of his marines to Soulkey's natural threatening a break. Unfortunately, there are a number of sunks up and lurkers are out. Iris looks to be screwed, as Soulkey this entire time was still wreaking havoc in Iris's base with his mutas.

But good god, Iris's recovery was amazing. He desperately held map control in the midgame, even after a failed 3 tank 1 vessel push (Soulkey kept sniping the tanks), and managed to secure an easy third with mines right after siege. Then a little later, he sneaks an expo at the bot right, and is able to slowly regain his deficit with a four base economy.

Soulkey found out about the bot right too late, and so despite playing phenomenally, as the game went on, his economy lost steam while Iris's chugged along.

God this was such a fun game to watch.


Hello
hype[NZ]
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Japan412 Posts
January 30 2010 09:35 GMT
#2
It wasn't Zero it was (Z)Neo.G_Soulkey
Butigroove
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Seychelles2061 Posts
January 30 2010 09:41 GMT
#3
I actually turned the game off because Iris was losing and I couldnt handle watching. Looked later and i was like :O wotto
beach beers buds beezies b-b-b-baaanelings
PH
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6173 Posts
January 30 2010 10:02 GMT
#4
On January 30 2010 18:35 hype[NZ] wrote:
It wasn't Zero it was (Z)Neo.G_Soulkey

Whoops. My bad. The kid looks exactly like Zero with a different haircut. -_-
Hello
GrimAngel
Profile Joined September 2008
United States416 Posts
January 30 2010 10:34 GMT
#5
Yeah I thought it was a very entertaining and intense game. Soulkey played quite well but Iris just kept hanging in there. Iris's play was quite sloppy at times, but he still managed to persevere, and when he won it was just amazing. Great game, definitely the best in the match in my opinion.
Wan step ahead!
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
January 30 2010 10:54 GMT
#6
wow soulkey really does look a lot like zero
beep boop
Hirmu
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Finland850 Posts
January 30 2010 11:09 GMT
#7
lol he doesnt look like zero at all
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32280 Posts
January 30 2010 11:17 GMT
#8
IriS is one of the most entertaining players ever
Moderator<:3-/-<
raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
January 30 2010 11:56 GMT
#9
On January 30 2010 20:17 IntoTheWow wrote:
IriS is one of the most entertaining players ever


Yeah him and Much are the reasons why CJ is my favourite team . Iris's late game in all MUs is simply amazing . I'm sad that he is slumping right now . I hope he can step it up for CJ to make the winners league playoffs .
Jackle
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada859 Posts
January 30 2010 13:21 GMT
#10
Soulkey fan club in the audience. Every time he did anything in they "whoooooo'd". xD
You called down the thunder, now reap the whirlwind.
The6357
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States1268 Posts
January 30 2010 14:38 GMT
#11
everyone in the audience were Woongjin fan...lol
I think they were new hires for Woongjin company...i heard commentators talking about Woongjin being great company and such...
and one girl was holding cheerful "I got my first paycheck"
2010 worldcup!! corea fighting!!!
Alethios
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
New Zealand2765 Posts
January 30 2010 15:30 GMT
#12
Just finished watching that. What an awesome game.

I've always been a big fan of Iris, he always seems to deliver entertaining games.
When you arise in the morning, think of what a precious privilege it is to be alive - to breathe, to think, to enjoy, to love.
baubo
Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
January 30 2010 17:06 GMT
#13
Soulkey has the same problem as most younger players. He simply has trouble with decision-making in the late-game, focusing on all the wrong things. Older players like Iris are much better at looking at the big picture and understanding what's important. Which as the game goes on becomes more important than pure mechanics.
Meh
PH
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6173 Posts
January 30 2010 17:12 GMT
#14
It wasn't so much his decision making...it was not being able to touch Iris' third, and not scouting his bot right expo way too late. Even though he gained a considerable advantage in the midgame, it slipped away from him and turned into a deficit biting him in the ass in the late game.

Iris banked on keeping pressure up and holding map control to keep those bases and played like his life depended on it.
Hello
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33671 Posts
January 30 2010 23:09 GMT
#15
Iris tends to fuck up people's decision making because he forces them to react to so many things.

He doesn't actually make the best decisions himself, sometimes attacking low priority or well defended targets. But at his best, the overall philosophy and strategy of being constantly aggressive gives him more advantages than disadvantages.
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
INu's Battles
11:00
#19 - Day 2
Percival vs Cure
Classic vs Clem
IntoTheiNu 1132
WardiTV605
LiquipediaDiscussion
OSC
10:00
Vespene Cup #3
deth11
Liquipedia
The PondCast
10:00
Episode 104
CranKy Ducklings31
LiquipediaDiscussion
KCM Race Survival
10:00
Season 3 Week 5
Kim Chul Min (afreeca) 1274
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Lowko339
deth 11
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 27027
Bisu 1530
firebathero 790
Soulkey 770
EffOrt 350
actioN 332
BeSt 332
Larva 231
Light 202
Mong 195
[ Show more ]
Soma 187
Rush 172
Stork 167
hero 157
Snow 153
ZerO 148
Last 139
ggaemo 125
Dewaltoss 100
JYJ 79
Pusan 71
Hyun 61
Mind 56
Sea.KH 47
[sc1f]eonzerg 41
Sharp 36
JulyZerg 30
ToSsGirL 27
Icarus 23
Bale 21
soO 19
Sexy 19
Sacsri 19
Barracks 18
sorry 17
ajuk12(nOOB) 15
Noble 15
Liquid`Ret 14
NotJumperer 9
Dota 2
BananaSlamJamma188
League of Legends
JimRising 289
Counter-Strike
shoxiejesuss1820
olofmeister1590
ScreaM1338
byalli664
kRYSTAL_34
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King84
Other Games
singsing1939
B2W.Neo245
Liquid`LucifroN135
ZerO(Twitch)21
PiGStarcraft0
Organizations
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 7
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 66
• CranKy Ducklings SOOP7
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos1407
Other Games
• WagamamaTV18
Upcoming Events
PiG Sty Festival
8m
PiGStarcraft0
Replay Cast
12h 8m
Escore
22h 8m
IntoTheTV X SOOP
23h 8m
RSL Revival
1d 21h
herO vs SHIN
Clem vs Solar
Serral vs Rogue
RSL Revival
2 days
WardiTV Weekly
3 days
The Patches Monday
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
PiG Sty Festival
5 days
[ Show More ]
PiGosaur Cup
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Kung Fu Cup
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
The PondCast
6 days
Liquipedia Results
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.