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SanguineToss
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada815 Posts
December 03 2009 00:44 GMT
#1
Hi TL!

I used to work out very minimally going to the gym once a week for light weight lifting and mostly for cardio. Now that alot of my tests are done and winter vacation is starting i want to start working out intensely so that i can build a little bit of muscle.

But before i do that i realized that i want to use supplements while working out and my friend recommended me Gaspari Superpump 250. My friend is pretty jaaaaaaaacked and i thought i should try it out. But before buying it i asked my dad (who is a doctor) if taking creatine/supplements were okay. He said that it was okay but then he told me that there was a big risk that i would get liver damage and maybe even cancer in the future. I further researched it on the internet and i found out that if i drank alot of water? this could be prevented.

So...here's my question to you TL, do you have any experience taking Superpump ( or any other supplements ?) is it worth it and are the longterm side effects very serious?

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inReacH
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Sweden1612 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-03 00:52:35
December 03 2009 00:49 GMT
#2
"He said that it was okay but then he told me that there was a big risk that i would get liver damage and maybe even cancer in the future."

Did you ask him why he contradicted himself?

I would ask him what his sources are and then check them/the many other resources on the internet and make the decision yourself.

Or ask Inc!
AwarE--
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States70 Posts
December 03 2009 00:51 GMT
#3
Sorry but your dad is an idiot. There is no scientific study backing up any of the rumors that creatine use causes any form of longterm damage.

Superpump is well known under the name "superdump" with most of the guys I know because it contains Magnesium, which acts as a laxative. You will want to look for a creatine/preworkout stim without magnesium, like jack3d by usp labs.

Besides preworkout stims and/or creatine, the only things really that are staples of any lifter are fish oil (1-2g/day), a multivitamin, and bcaas.

Hope this helped.
quiong
Profile Joined January 2008
United States268 Posts
December 03 2009 00:52 GMT
#4
It's not really a contradiction. Taking calcium supplements, for instance, is generally regarded as being "okay", esp for women, but there's always the risk of kidney stones in the future.
Fixed
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States174 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-03 00:59:04
December 03 2009 00:58 GMT
#5
Dont be delusional people....taking most any kind of supplements long term has some kind of effects. Why dont u just work out, eat healthy, and get plenty of protein?

why risk long term health for something so superficial?
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iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
December 03 2009 01:01 GMT
#6
stay

away

from

supplements

They are bad on a whole. Really bad. For the most part ALL you need to do is buy yourself a tub of whey protein and take 2-3 shakes a day preferably 1 1~2 hours before and 1 immediately AFTER a workout.

PLEASE trust me on this. I have done the research, I have used them myself and I have learned my lessons. There are of course some natural supplements that do do some good but they aren't worth the cost especially when you can get same/better results with strict protein intake and dietary analysis.
SanguineToss
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada815 Posts
December 03 2009 01:18 GMT
#7
hahaha yeah ive done my fair share of research and my dad kinda explained that in korean so i just roughly translated it.

but inc...can u tell me some of the side effects that u have experienced?
404.Delirium
Profile Joined May 2008
United States1190 Posts
December 03 2009 01:27 GMT
#8
On December 03 2009 10:18 SanguineToss wrote:
hahaha yeah ive done my fair share of research and my dad kinda explained that in korean so i just roughly translated it.

but inc...can u tell me some of the side effects that u have experienced?


http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=82683
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=106600

I could've sworn there were others.
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CommanderFluffy
Profile Joined June 2008
Taiwan1059 Posts
December 03 2009 01:35 GMT
#9
100% Whey Optimum Gold, there was a 2x5lb pack deal on SlickDeals for ~$66. I've been taking this for about 3 years, it beats supplements simply because it is just whey.

Do what inc said, before and after workout whey up.

Whether supplements hurt you or not, i do not know for sure. But you should always be drinking hella water if you are serious about straining your body for long run benefits.
Pain is temporary, but glory is forever.
XCLuSive
Profile Joined November 2009
Canada121 Posts
December 03 2009 02:15 GMT
#10
Yeah, i've been workout for a couple of years now and I've only touched protein (ISO Sensation tastes orgasmic, a bit expensive but definitely worth it).

I've heard that excessive amounts of protein can have side-effects (one of them being urinating more often, and other ones related to some organs), but you can easily fix this by not drinking 999scoops/day.

I really don't see a point in having any other supplement besides protein unless you're trying to go for Mr. Olympia. Just eat healthy, get your sleep, and don't over train!
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Impervious
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada4217 Posts
December 03 2009 02:36 GMT
#11
I would suggest you stay away from supplements (I've been on them before, they work, but they are expensive, and there is no knowing how you will react to it over the long term).

If you are really set on using supplements - protein powder shakes are a great start. A daily multivitamin is also a smart idea.

Getting into the more serious supplements - go no further than glutamine, argenine, and creatine. Those 3 (in appropriate doses) should be fine for anything you want to accomplish.

But, even then, consider the risks. There are very little risks with just protein and a multivitamin (in fact, there are probably no risks, only benefits, when used properly).

Anything past that and you should consult with a nutritionist, a doctor, or some other professional.
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decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20159 Posts
December 03 2009 02:39 GMT
#12
The only thing i'm taking is protein powder, daily vitamin, and a fuck ton of food.

Only other thing i would is creatine monohydrate and glutamine but i dont have any. not really necessary but probably beneficial.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
251
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States1401 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-03 02:39:59
December 03 2009 02:39 GMT
#13
I'm pretty interested in this. thanks for the info Inc. I've been working out a lot lately and while I've made very noticeable improvements in my build, I can't seem to build significant arm muscle mass no matter how long or rigorous my workout is. and if I take a break, like for a couple days, it almost seems as if I never did anything at all. I know genetics play a pretty strong role (I have pretty scrawny uncles/grandfathers) but I really want to build some mass. I was just drinking a protein shake (I think some kind of soy/whey combo) and maybe a bar after a workout, going like twice a week. I think I basically realized have to go more than that to get anything accomplished. I'm pretty fit and thin as it is but want moar muscle.
"If you can chill..........then chill."
Fixed
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States174 Posts
December 03 2009 03:02 GMT
#14
Going to the gym twice a week is almost useless. You really need to go at least 3 days a week to see any kind of results at all.
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XCLuSive
Profile Joined November 2009
Canada121 Posts
December 03 2009 03:19 GMT
#15
Agreed. And just a little tip for doing arms, you really really really have to up the intensity. (Lower reps, more sets, heavier weights). You'll really have to push yourself when doing this type of a workout. A spot will always help, but this is what basically gave me MASSIVE ARMS ^^
nothing less than legendary
AwarE--
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States70 Posts
December 03 2009 03:57 GMT
#16
A pre workout stim is caffeine, vitamin bs, amino acids, and creatine etc.

You ingest all of that in other foods.
AwarE--
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States70 Posts
December 03 2009 03:59 GMT
#17
Also you shouldn't even be worrying about supps or anything before you have your diet and workout down to a t. And by that I mean years of solid training with a consistent diet and routine.
uNcontroLable
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States1180 Posts
December 03 2009 04:22 GMT
#18
On December 03 2009 10:01 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
stay

away

from

supplements

They are bad on a whole. Really bad. For the most part ALL you need to do is buy yourself a tub of whey protein and take 2-3 shakes a day preferably 1 1~2 hours before and 1 immediately AFTER a workout.

PLEASE trust me on this. I have done the research, I have used them myself and I have learned my lessons. There are of course some natural supplements that do do some good but they aren't worth the cost especially when you can get same/better results with strict protein intake and dietary analysis.

QFT

If you don't trust him, trust the girlfriend that dealt with him while he was on them. Monster mood swings, anger/aggression, weird physical malfunctions... other... effects... embarrassing stuff. Please, just believe me. Seriously, do protien drinks after each workout I swear you'll see results even faster. For me and for iNc I could tell day by day an increase in muscle mass and tone.
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GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
December 03 2009 04:28 GMT
#19
On December 03 2009 10:01 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
stay

away

from

supplements

They are bad on a whole. Really bad. For the most part ALL you need to do is buy yourself a tub of whey protein and take 2-3 shakes a day preferably 1 1~2 hours before and 1 immediately AFTER a workout.

PLEASE trust me on this. I have done the research, I have used them myself and I have learned my lessons. There are of course some natural supplements that do do some good but they aren't worth the cost especially when you can get same/better results with strict protein intake and dietary analysis.


Right, I would add creatine as well. Even the biggest health bufs i know use that and they wont put many things into their body supplement wise.
Why would you ever choose failure, when success is an option.
AwarE--
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States70 Posts
December 03 2009 07:19 GMT
#20
[B]On December 03 2009 13:22 uNcontroLable wrote:
If you don't trust him, trust the girlfriend that dealt with him while he was on them. Monster mood swings, anger/aggression, weird physical malfunctions... other... effects... embarrassing stuff. Please, just believe me. Seriously, do protien drinks after each workout I swear you'll see results even faster. For me and for iNc I could tell day by day an increase in muscle mass and tone.


Well it depends what you're talking about as far as supplements. Pretty broad range there.

Only things I advised taking were a preworkout stim, (including creatine or not) vitamins, fish oil, and bcaas.

All of which are ingested naturally through regular foods at lower levels.
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